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i got into the most surreal disagreement with my kid

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not sure if i'm annoyed or proud.

my daughter's best friend is this boy, "B". My daughter once told me that B's father is huge and gross and just sits in front of a computer all day and has terminal cancer. B has 3 siblings, 1 of whom is 18 and mentally retarded. As she told me this, I realized that I have seen a woman at the grocery store who looks INSANE walking around with a retarded adult boy and a few younger kids. I described her and my daughter said it sounded just like B's mom.

Well today we went to the grocery store and there she was. My daughter introduced us and the woman was... indescribable. She wears a long, matted wig. her real hair is a different color, and she pins it to the wig in strange places that stick UP(hard to describe, but I know what I saw). She has 1 tooth, and it's rotted. She wore ORANGE lipstick all over her mouth. I mean, not necessarily on her lips, and not covering all of her lips either- it was mostly on the rest of her face- like on her cheeks and chin. She wore a LOT of clothes that were mismatched and a little dirty - long flowery skirt, leopard tights, white old lady sandals, different flowery blouse, sparkly tank top, dirty scarf around her neck, fake rings on every finger, string tight around her fingers, and magic marker on her arms.

So this woman goes on about how nice my daughter is, and that "B" is her favorite child of hers and that he's such a good, smart boy. She asked if i worked and I said I do. I asked if she worked and she said, "no. believe it or not, I have a college degree (i guess she knows she doesn't look like she would) but since my husband has stage 4 cancer, I get paid by the state to take care of him."

Then she said that maybe one day we could go out for coffee. I said, "uh. sure." and she said that she doesn't drive so I would have to and she might have to bring her (retarded) son with her.
I said, "well I don't have much time because I work, but if i do, i'll call you."

So at home, my daughter kept telling me how nice she is and I stayed quiet. I asked her what their house was like and she said she's not sure because it's always dark, but that B gets straight As and takes care of his family- he's the one that makes sure the rent is paid, etc.
She asked if i was going to have coffee with B's mom and I said, "no."
Now she's mad at me because I'm judging her. I said, "yeah, I am. She looks insane. i'm sure she's very nice, but I don't have to have her in my car or house and I don't want to have coffee with her. I have plenty of friends."
But she's still mad at me for just saying no.
 
Wow... I must say you paint quiet the mental picture. I think I would have responded in the same way as you. Crazy.
 
the only solution is to find a friend with the slimiest, most vile kid ever, and arrange a playdate with your daughter.
 
oh and for the record i think your daughter is being pretty unreasonable. it's not your responsibility to bolster her social relationships
 
why the fuck would u wanna go to coffee with a meth head? id be like "no i aint goin cofee wit no crwakhead and you cant go over there no more, u best not be seein B anymore"

and if
 
how old is your daughter?

she's 14.
on one hand, i'm proud because my daughter is seriously pretty (i know, she's my kid so I would think that, but she really is stunning looking) and has friends of all shapes and sizes and money- from very very wealthy to... uh.. this kid.

She KNOWS i would never go anyplace with this woman. I was embarrassed to be talking to her in the grocery store. When i've seen her there in the past, I couldn't stop staring at her... she's... a freak!
 
Wow... I must say you paint quiet the mental picture. I think I would have responded in the same way as you. Crazy.

I've really never seen anything like this woman walking around.
her kids look clean, but I wonder if she's ever given the state a reason to look at her. I mean, "B" is a good kid, but maybe he's the only "adult" in the house.
 
No, I don't think you're doing anything wrong. Why would you want to have coffee with a complete stranger anyway, unless for some reason the two of you just clicked instantly? It really doesn't matter what said person looks like. But hey, congratulations for raising a kid that doesn't judge people on their looks, especially if she is "stunning". Sounds like a good kid.
 
No, I don't think you're doing anything wrong. Why would you want to have coffee with a complete stranger anyway, unless for some reason the two of you just clicked instantly? It really doesn't matter what said person looks like. But hey, congratulations for raising a kid that doesn't judge people on their looks, especially if she is "stunning". Sounds like a good kid.

thanks. :)
she's understanding now. I explained that i have friends that look all different- I don't care if they are short, tall, ugly, pretty, etc. But they have to have a lifestyle that I'm interested in sharing.

I also reminded her that there's a reason why she would be mortified if i showed up to her school in my pj's... :)
 
What you need to do:

Set up a date with a bitch friend that you want to get rid off.

Invite insane mom over to your place and tell her to make sure you bring her retarded son with her. Offer to drive them, that should seal the deal.

Pick up insane mom and retarded son, tell them "Change of plans - we are going to my friends who would really love to meet you."

Drive them quickly to your bitch friends house, announce joyfully to your bitch friend that you brought your best friends over.

As soon as they are in the house, excuse yourself to the bathroom and F off.

LOL on the way home.

It's what I would do.









b0und (I think stuff like that through)
 
I can understand you not wanting to socialize with this person.

But, in a way, your daughter is a better person than you are...fail!

But that's a win for you in the parenting department...success!

Bottom line, you broke even here, so don't sweat it :)
 
yeah right i would NEVER go out for coffee with her. just because she is your daughter's friend's mom doesn't mean you have to go out with her. my parents don't know half of my friend's parents. the way you described her sounds like this lady who used to live in my neighborhood.. Crazy Nancy. She was just really insane and would wear weird stuff like this woman too. Her house had no electricity or heat though, which is kind of sad. Her kids didn't live with her because they had their own lives but would sometimes check in on her (i know this because my friend lived across the street). At least this woman has her family. Do you know why she's like this? is it because her husband has cancer or has she always been this way?
 
I have to say your daughter sounds kind of like mine.....I wish I was as accepting of people and their families as she is. Kudos to your daughter for obviously realizing this kid is a good person, too - if he truly takes care of his family and deals with that on a daily basis, he's far more mature than many full-grown men I know (and one I had married). I don't think you are a bad person for not going to coffee with a crazy lady.....I doubt I could have. I just don't like to be in uncomfortable situations unless there is a damn good reason for it - and this just doesn't warrant a good enough reason.
 
yeah right i would NEVER go out for coffee with her. just because she is your daughter's friend's mom doesn't mean you have to go out with her. my parents don't know half of my friend's parents. the way you described her sounds like this lady who used to live in my neighborhood.. Crazy Nancy. She was just really insane and would wear weird stuff like this woman too. Her house had no electricity or heat though, which is kind of sad. Her kids didn't live with her because they had their own lives but would sometimes check in on her (i know this because my friend lived across the street). At least this woman has her family. Do you know why she's like this? is it because her husband has cancer or has she always been this way?

her look was definitely NOT just from being poor. even long term (hence the reason why she only has one tooth left). that's a long process of neglect and crazy.
one of my good friends looks a little crazy, but I love her and she's CLEAN. she looks funky, not... certifiable.
 
not sure if i'm annoyed or proud.

my daughter's best friend is this boy, "B". My daughter once told me that B's father is huge and gross and just sits in front of a computer all day and has terminal cancer. B has 3 siblings, 1 of whom is 18 and mentally retarded. As she told me this, I realized that I have seen a woman at the grocery store who looks INSANE walking around with a retarded adult boy and a few younger kids. I described her and my daughter said it sounded just like B's mom.

Well today we went to the grocery store and there she was. My daughter introduced us and the woman was... indescribable. She wears a long, matted wig. her real hair is a different color, and she pins it to the wig in strange places that stick UP(hard to describe, but I know what I saw). She has 1 tooth, and it's rotted. She wore ORANGE lipstick all over her mouth. I mean, not necessarily on her lips, and not covering all of her lips either- it was mostly on the rest of her face- like on her cheeks and chin. She wore a LOT of clothes that were mismatched and a little dirty - long flowery skirt, leopard tights, white old lady sandals, different flowery blouse, sparkly tank top, dirty scarf around her neck, fake rings on every finger, string tight around her fingers, and magic marker on her arms.

So this woman goes on about how nice my daughter is, and that "B" is her favorite child of hers and that he's such a good, smart boy. She asked if i worked and I said I do. I asked if she worked and she said, "no. believe it or not, I have a college degree (i guess she knows she doesn't look like she would) but since my husband has stage 4 cancer, I get paid by the state to take care of him."

Then she said that maybe one day we could go out for coffee. I said, "uh. sure." and she said that she doesn't drive so I would have to and she might have to bring her (retarded) son with her.
I said, "well I don't have much time because I work, but if i do, i'll call you."

So at home, my daughter kept telling me how nice she is and I stayed quiet. I asked her what their house was like and she said she's not sure because it's always dark, but that B gets straight As and takes care of his family- he's the one that makes sure the rent is paid, etc.
She asked if i was going to have coffee with B's mom and I said, "no."
Now she's mad at me because I'm judging her. I said, "yeah, I am. She looks insane. i'm sure she's very nice, but I don't have to have her in my car or house and I don't want to have coffee with her. I have plenty of friends."
But she's still mad at me for just saying no.

You could always get coffee with her and strike up a conversation about her 21 cats.
 
You could always get coffee with her and strike up a conversation about her 21 cats.

i'm pretty sure that being in the same car with this woman would make me sick to my stomach.
picture a homeless man in pee soaked rags and crazy hair, no teeth and probably a few maggots somewhere. now picture him in your car.


there.
 
i'm pretty sure that being in the same car with this woman would make me sick to my stomach.
picture a homeless man in pee soaked rags and crazy hair, no teeth and probably a few maggots somewhere. now picture him in your car.


there.

So you wont be going to Neiman with her either then I suppose
 
I would have coffee with the poor lady. I am sure she could use a friend, and maybe some support in her life. Must be tough looking the way she does, no one to talk to. Just a crazy ass husband and a retarded child. Husband is dieing too so I am sure that weights on her heart all the time. God she must be dying on the inside. The world can be so cruel, wish it were a better place some times.
 
Nice to hear people are out there willing to give love where and when you don't need to or have to- It's a sign of character and that's your daughter. You did raise a good kid. She wanted to raise you up on a higher level by seeing you accept and go forward with that invitation. That's okay if you don't. You don't have to be Saint Mom. She has to accept you with your limitations too. Kids do want to worship us and think we're perfect. Sounds like you explained yourself reasonably. It's life and a good lesson. That woman is lonely. Just send over some organic whole grain honey brownies or something. Food feeds the soul.
 
YA that would be a great thing to do. Dont have to be best of friends bu maybe just give her some kind of comfort in her life. You never know you might feel real good about doing something like that after.

why do *I* have to do it? because my daughter and her son are friends? she didn't ask me for a makeover any more than I asked her for one.
 
crazy story. the idea of why people like this exist is interesting though...is it a breakdown of society that these people don't get more help, or is it just an individual breakdown? NeedToBuild's posts are food for thought.
 
crazy story. the idea of why people like this exist is interesting though...is it a breakdown of society that these people don't get more help, or is it just an individual breakdown? NeedToBuild's posts are food for thought.

well in a way...
maybe she doesn't need help. I mean, she looks like a lunatic to ME, but maybe a woman walking around in 5" heels and fake boobs and lips looks like a lunatic to HER.
who's to say which is normal, or acceptable?

I mean, it doesn't mean I would ever let this gross woman in my car, but I can't assume she wants or needs a makeover, or that she is lonely or wants help in any way.
 
the way i would look at it, is it doesnt cost anything to be nice ,but if you do invite her for coffee ,she might think its ok to invite her self next time and make it a regular thing ,so for that reason i would nt do it .
 
well in a way...
maybe she doesn't need help. I mean, she looks like a lunatic to ME, but maybe a woman walking around in 5" heels and fake boobs and lips looks like a lunatic to HER.
who's to say which is normal, or acceptable?

I mean, it doesn't mean I would ever let this gross woman in my car, but I can't assume she wants or needs a makeover, or that she is lonely or wants help in any way.

wait. I should clarify... the fictitious person in my comparison with the fake boobs and lips and high heels is not me.
 
if the lady don't drive you could use that as an excuse on why you never went for "coffee." play it off like you don't have time or whatever. or does she live in distance?

story needed "and then i pulled out my samurai sword and chopped her wig off and said NOOOOOO i'm allergic to shellfish"

always always play one uppey with crazy people!! freak those mother fuckers out for once!
 
not sure if i'm annoyed or proud.

my daughter's best friend is this boy, "B". My daughter once told me that B's father is huge and gross and just sits in front of a computer all day and has terminal cancer. B has 3 siblings, 1 of whom is 18 and mentally retarded. As she told me this, I realized that I have seen a woman at the grocery store who looks INSANE walking around with a retarded adult boy and a few younger kids. I described her and my daughter said it sounded just like B's mom.

Well today we went to the grocery store and there she was. My daughter introduced us and the woman was... indescribable. She wears a long, matted wig. her real hair is a different color, and she pins it to the wig in strange places that stick UP(hard to describe, but I know what I saw). She has 1 tooth, and it's rotted. She wore ORANGE lipstick all over her mouth. I mean, not necessarily on her lips, and not covering all of her lips either- it was mostly on the rest of her face- like on her cheeks and chin. She wore a LOT of clothes that were mismatched and a little dirty - long flowery skirt, leopard tights, white old lady sandals, different flowery blouse, sparkly tank top, dirty scarf around her neck, fake rings on every finger, string tight around her fingers, and magic marker on her arms.

So this woman goes on about how nice my daughter is, and that "B" is her favorite child of hers and that he's such a good, smart boy. She asked if i worked and I said I do. I asked if she worked and she said, "no. believe it or not, I have a college degree (i guess she knows she doesn't look like she would) but since my husband has stage 4 cancer, I get paid by the state to take care of him."

Then she said that maybe one day we could go out for coffee. I said, "uh. sure." and she said that she doesn't drive so I would have to and she might have to bring her (retarded) son with her.
I said, "well I don't have much time because I work, but if i do, i'll call you."

So at home, my daughter kept telling me how nice she is and I stayed quiet. I asked her what their house was like and she said she's not sure because it's always dark, but that B gets straight As and takes care of his family- he's the one that makes sure the rent is paid, etc.
She asked if i was going to have coffee with B's mom and I said, "no."
Now she's mad at me because I'm judging her. I said, "yeah, I am. She looks insane. i'm sure she's very nice, but I don't have to have her in my car or house and I don't want to have coffee with her. I have plenty of friends."
But she's still mad at me for just saying no.

I vote you should be proud of your daughter. The mom sounds like she is in a very trying situation- husband with stage 4 cancer, a grown kid with an intellectual disability. I'm not sure I would be able to handle all that without going a little crazy myself.
"B" must be a godsend to her, the poor boy. It's nice that your daughter is being a friend to him despite his living situation.
 
Well today we went to the grocery store and there she was. My daughter introduced us and the woman was... indescribable. She wears a long, matted wig. her real hair is a different color, and she pins it to the wig in strange places that stick UP(hard to describe, but I know what I saw). She has 1 tooth, and it's rotted. She wore ORANGE lipstick all over her mouth. I mean, not necessarily on her lips, and not covering all of her lips either- it was mostly on the rest of her face- like on her cheeks and chin. She wore a LOT of clothes that were mismatched and a little dirty - long flowery skirt, leopard tights, white old lady sandals, different flowery blouse, sparkly tank top, dirty scarf around her neck, fake rings on every finger, string tight around her fingers, and magic marker on her arms.

^
Stenz would've just said "bitch was batshit nuts"
 
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