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How much gh is released from working out legs?

WARBIRDWS6 said:


aren't we being a pest tonight. :D remember also, you hit your hams/glutes/quads/calves and to a lesser degree shoulders and arms and all when you squat. as well as kick your metabolism into overdrive. you know how it feels after squats when you can't breathe....then the next day your ass and quads and hams hurt like a bitch. your hitting like 3/4 of your muscle mass with squats.

Agreed.

Think about it too for all you guys trying to pack on overall bodyweight and are only training the upper body.
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:


aren't we being a pest tonight. :D remember also, you hit your hams/glutes/quads/calves and to a lesser degree shoulders and arms and all when you squat. as well as kick your metabolism into overdrive. you know how it feels after squats when you can't breathe....then the next day your ass and quads and hams hurt like a bitch. your hitting like 3/4 of your muscle mass with squats.

Maybe, but isolation helps grow better imo ... squats are overrated. I have 28-29inch legs, with under 17inch arms ... I am much more worried about arms than legs ... :p Anyway, I just want to know how true the whole idea of "legs make your whole body grow" theory is. :)

-sk
 
sk* said:


Maybe, but isolation helps grow better imo ... squats are overrated. I have 28-29inch legs, with under 17inch arms ... I am much more worried about arms than legs ... :p Anyway, I just want to know how true the whole idea of "legs make your whole body grow" theory is. :)

-sk

Interesting. So you're saying dumbell flyes work better than dumbell bench presses? Or pec deck is better than bench presses? Maybe you meant alternative exercises such as leg presses which is still a compound movement because get real to get as much from the squat with isolation exercises you would have to do a shitload of leg extensions, adductor machine, a lil hamstring work, a lil calf work, as well as the butt blaster. Also, the squat gives you more functional strength and also enables you to recruit more motor units since you are training them together which all the more makes it more effective. Not saying isolaion doesn't have it's place but to say it's better is like saying a civic is better than a mercedes.
 
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who knows , i don't even care, i all i care about is that it works and i love it and my legs will always be the biggest! ha hah
 
Mike P.T. said:


Interesting. So you're saying dumbell flyes work better than dumbell bench presses? Or pec deck is better than bench presses? Maybe you meant alternative exercises such as leg presses which is still a compound movement because get real to get as much from the squat with isolation exercises you would have to do a shitload of leg extensions, adductor machine, a lil hamstring work, a lil calf work, as well as the butt blaster. Also, the squat gives you more functional strength and also enables you to recruit more motor units since you are training them together which all the more makes it more effective. Not saying isolaion doesn't have it's place but to say it's better is like saying a civic is better than a mercedes.

Everything has its limits, but this is why bodybuilders don't do a lot of cleans ... it's pointless in bodybuilding.

I think if flies were done correctly and a good number of reps they would build the chest better ONLY if other isolation movements are done to build the other parts of the body that a bench press would have hit ... Most people that do flies instead of bench for ex. won't do other exercises that will hit the other parts of the bench as well and, therefore, don't get a full workout. I am having a little difficulty trying to explain what I am thinking but i'll rephrase if I am misunderstood.

-sk
 
sk* said:


Maybe, but isolation helps grow better imo ... squats are overrated. I have 28-29inch legs, with under 17inch arms ... I am much more worried about arms than legs ... :p Anyway, I just want to know how true the whole idea of "legs make your whole body grow" theory is. :)

-sk

i have always had a big ass/hip/leg structure..and worked at the walmart warehouse for 9 years pulling million pound pallets all friggin night....so i never worried much about working legs. but i have been doing so more often. and incorporated squats and leg ext into my split permanantly now. and i also have 16-ish inch arms (no juice, not sure after this here cycle) and have 26-27 inch legs last time i measured (may have been more, it was long ago). so i can see where you are coming from also. i think i have spurred some extra weight gain for sure working legs and using squats. i'll measure them again after this cycle, (and had one previous oral only cycle). so it will be two cycles worth basically and i'll see if there is a diff with squats and juice added in.
 
sk* said:


Everything has its limits, but this is why bodybuilders don't do a lot of cleans ... it's pointless in bodybuilding.

I think if flies were done correctly and a good number of reps they would build the chest better ONLY if other isolation movements are done to build the other parts of the body that a bench press would have hit ... Most people that do flies instead of bench for ex. won't do other exercises that will hit the other parts of the bench as well and, therefore, don't get a full workout. I am having a little difficulty trying to explain what I am thinking but i'll rephrase if I am misunderstood.

-sk

yeah, i dropped flat benches. screw that. i do flat DB benches, along with fly's and incline barbell presses. you have to go with what works for you. flat BB bench just wasn't doing it for me. DB benches work well though. and fly's and inclines work well also for overall development.
 
sk* said:

Everything has its limits, but this is why bodybuilders don't do a lot of cleans ... it's pointless in bodybuilding.
-sk

What exactly do you mean by this, when you say "this is why" what were you referring too?
 
baza said:


What exactly do you mean by this, when you say "this is why" what were you referring too?

Cleans hit many musclegroups and aren't a good isolation exercise, therefore, you hardly ever see any bodybuilder doing them.

-sk
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:


i have always had a big ass/hip/leg structure..and worked at the walmart warehouse for 9 years pulling million pound pallets all friggin night....so i never worried much about working legs. but i have been doing so more often. and incorporated squats and leg ext into my split permanantly now. and i also have 16-ish inch arms (no juice, not sure after this here cycle) and have 26-27 inch legs last time i measured (may have been more, it was long ago). so i can see where you are coming from also. i think i have spurred some extra weight gain for sure working legs and using squats. i'll measure them again after this cycle, (and had one previous oral only cycle). so it will be two cycles worth basically and i'll see if there is a diff with squats and juice added in.

Bro, I think squats are a good exercise and nothing like squats (maybe deads) gives you that wanna die feeling after the gym, but I am just not sure that doing squats helps you get bigger arms or chest or whatever. I am sure it helps somewhat cause it hits them secondary but does it really due to gh? And since when does gh build muscle??? I think this is just a myth spread by some hotheads to just make fun of newbies that don't like to train legs. I could be wrong, but I even like training legs but not to get them big ... I just like the afterwards feeling.

Let's be honest, unless you are gonna be stepping on stage, hardly anyone cares about your legs.

-sk
 
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