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how fast did you see results while on CKD?

You gotta keep the fat low on your re-feeds. You waste progress that way. That shit will pack you fat in short order doing a re-feed like that.
 
Holy $hit last night while doing squats I almost passed out starting seeing stars. This no carb diet is no joke. I still have decent power just no stamina which is nomal i assume. So whats the deal with having carbs 1 hour before ur fri workout is this necessary. I did not do this last week. i thought the point of the fri workout was to do a full body workout to ensure you drain any left over glycogeon from the body so you can get a complete refuel?
 
I don't know, I always get a little dizzy with big squats (I also do them on Fridays but I don't eat carbs until Sat morn and then I stick to clean/complex carbs) but have you had your BP checked? As for the energy everyone is diff but I always found that a stimulate taken before working out kept me at higher then normal energy levels.
 
Holy $hit last night while doing squats I almost passed out starting seeing stars. This no carb diet is no joke. I still have decent power just no stamina which is nomal i assume. So whats the deal with having carbs 1 hour before ur fri workout is this necessary. I did not do this last week. i thought the point of the fri workout was to do a full body workout to ensure you drain any left over glycogeon from the body so you can get a complete refuel?

You may be misunderstanding. If you are doing a full body workout, it should be in the middle of your re-feed. Meaning on the day of your re-feed.

You experience is normal in the sense that is what happens when you start to get really really depleted. But you don't want to get to this point.

Really the goal of the CKD is maintaining LBM while losing fat lbs. You can't consistently do intense powerful workouts when running that protocol. You can at the start... But once you hit that point, you know it. But trying to train with intensity during a CKD isn't going to workout in the long run.

that's why I favor the TKD in general, and use the CKD 2-3 weeks max at a time
 
Sorry im a but theick headed Sonicwaste So what your saying is if my carb refuel starts after my Fri workout. on Saturday i should do a full body workout while refueling. I think this makes sense. As this will be storing all the glycogeon back into the muscles right? sorry fpr the confusion
 
Sorry im a but theick headed Sonicwaste So what your saying is if my carb refuel starts after my Fri workout. on Saturday i should do a full body workout while refueling. I think this makes sense. As this will be storing all the glycogeon back into the muscles right? sorry fpr the confusion

Exactly. But why are you starting your re-feed on friday? You should start it Saturday morning if that is your re-feed day. This way you have friday night sleep where you are still in keto.

And typically I have found that the bigger my re-feeds and the more high GI carbs I use, the faster I snap back in to keto the next day.
 
Any chance you guys can put up the routine/macros for a week in CKD and TKD including for your refeed day/days so i can compare to see if i was even doing it right for myself?
Great post by the way.
 
Exactly. But why are you starting your re-feed on friday? You should start it Saturday morning if that is your re-feed day. This way you have friday night sleep where you are still in keto.

And typically I have found that the bigger my re-feeds and the more high GI carbs I use, the faster I snap back in to keto the next day.

I was starting it right after my Friday workout tonight then continue refueling until midnight on Saturday, at least thats what i did last week. I also read somewhere that its good to have some fruit right before your last workout before your refuel. This primes the body to start storing glycogeon? I am going to finsh this week out, but next week your saying start refuel Sat morning instead of after last workout?
 
I was starting it right after my Friday workout tonight then continue refueling until midnight on Saturday, at least thats what i did last week. I also read somewhere that its good to have some fruit right before your last workout before your refuel. This primes the body to start storing glycogeon? I am going to finsh this week out, but next week your saying start refuel Sat morning instead of after last workout?

That's what i'd do. Never heard about the fruit to prime. Fructose can replenish liver glycogen pretty well, so I guess in theory it has a point... But still I'd rather start the whole re-feed in the morning.
 
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