What's up guys..in short my problem is that I have vascularity in my lower abs but yet I hold fat/water in my lower chest, where it almost looks like gyno, which it isn't cause I had the surgery...I'm not on any juice but I have been on gh tho...I'm working with phil hernon, and his program has greatly reduced my cortisol and water retention problems to a degree, so I think some of the problem is with estrogen