Blood, i dont own the book so i cant wipe my ass with it. I'm not arguing with my friends results. I'm also not arguing with Jenbflchick's results from this board either. There's 2 people I know personally that it worked for, and one from off here. I just personally think you have something against the program and don't want to see it work for anyone at all. I also don't even follow the fist size portion thing,in the diet, though if I did, a piece of chicken the size of my fist would be a usual serving of protein in any other bodybuilder type diet anyway. Well, come to think of it, I guess I do follow the size of the fist thing then in a round about way. A hunk of meat the size of my fist is at least 50 gras of protein, I have big hands.