help with a female cycle??

[w84me]

I noticed in some of the discussions that very informed users were helping make some recommendations for cycles. Hopefully, I will get the same type of guidance.

I've done orals over the past year. Not enough gains. So ... I've done what others have done on this board, watched, read, studied, and then decided it was time.

I have aratest (enanthate w/prop).

I've read where women should take smaller doses which lessen the chances of the bad side effects ... broken out like 2 or 3 times a week. i.e. Mon, Wed, Fri

Is this what any of you recommend? Are there guys out there that help their wife out like this? or other women that are using same?

Also, in the delts or glutes? or is it a matter of preference?

Here are my stats .... and let me know if you need any other info that would help make any recommendations.

5'5"
125 lbs
competitive bodybuilder
lift 5 days a week

Any help is grealy appreciated.

 

[w84me]

yes, 2500
been holding for about a week til I have a cycle planned out

 

[wilson6]

"I've done orals over the past year. Not enough gains."

Makes me wonder if something else is wrong here (diet, training, etc.) and define "not enough gains".

W6

 

[w84me]

I eat 5 times a day (at least). Hi-protein w/protein supplements since I can't be around a kitchen/restaurant, complex carbs, low-fat but take flaxseed oil.

here's a typical week at the gym during midday:
(not including cardio which I do in the evening)
- monday, chest
- tuesday, legs/abs
- wednesday, back
- thursday, shoulders/abs/calves
- friday, tris/bis (rotate which I begin with each week)

If I go to the gym in the evening, I stick with cardio or hitting abs again ... but stay away from heavy loads.

The avatar is me.

 

[wilson6]

How long are you in the gym, and how heavy do you lift?

If you're there for more than 40 - 60 min per session, it's too long and/or too much volume. Arms, chest and back should run about 40 mins. Legs around an hour. Calves 15 - 20 min.

Abs twice a week (15 min per session) is more than enough.

Watch how much cardio you're doing. Keep it to a minimum if you're trying to add muscle.

If you're doing one of those cock roach style fitness routines (i.e., bounce from exercise to exercise with light to moderate weight and higher reps) that will never work for adding muscle.

How many total calories? or you getting enough carbs? If you need more calories, add carbs not more Flax. You only need a couple of teaspoons (10g) of Flax a day for EFAs.

What did you use for orals and how much and how long?

Was the stuff legit or fake?

What are you're expectations (i.e., how much muscle are you looking to add in what period of time)?

What percent body fat are you right now?

While test will certainly increase size, strength and muscle mass, it will most certainly decrease your voice, enlarge your clit, give you acne and terminal facial hair as well as considerable water retention if taken in a high enough dose which for women isn't very much.

Know what you're getting into because some of the cosmetic sides are not largely reversible.

You should assess everything else (diet, training, goals, can you live with the sides, etc.) first before jumping into this any further.

Just my two cents.

W6

 

[w84me]

thanks Lobo ...
I sent you the email with some of the answers ...

to answer w6 -
- legit, oral winny & primo, 2 cycles, 6 weeks each
- decided not to stay with orals; direct hit to liver
- in the gym typically 40-45 minutes except for legs (lunch workout time slot)
- I hit each muscle group hard, rest & recovery, if still sore, go light the next week for that group
- AR w/bands - light just to get the fluids pumping
- I work in the 70-85% range of my 1RM for each major group
- calory avg. 2000-2500
- current bodyfat (not competing now) is 16%
- wanting more mass & gains (20lbs....definitely inches)
- sounds like nandrolone phenylpropionate is the smarter choice ... not aratest

I think I've answered most of them ... except Lobo's questions which I emailed. Thanks again for posting to me.

 

[wilson6]

"wanting more mass & gains (20lbs....definitely inches) "

Be prepared to endure some permanent virilization if you're looking for that amount of mass and my guess is that you'll probably end up with decanoate vs phenylpropionate because of injection frequency needed to keep blood levels high enough for that type of anabolic response.

Are you sure you really want to do this?

W6

 

[aurelius]

w84me

Your height, weight and fat stats are almost identical with those of my girlfriend and she has never used. Yours is a curious case... Here´s a link to peruse her pics.

www.picturetrails.com/aaurelius

 

[w84me]

I will be happy with slow progression, 5lbs, 10lbs, ... always re-assessing as I progress ... will be aware of warning signs, will stop.

I am planning on moving at a steady pace ... no overnight thing ... I've been working hard and will continue to study and analyze my growth. I plan on staying as femine as I can ... won't over do.

I want the best guidance that I can have while moving forward on my strength gains and knew I could come post here.

I like Realgains post on "Injectable Guide for Females" ... and will stick with the nandrolone phenylprop and go slowly.