Fructose, Dairy and SUgar substitutes.....

[Joe Stenson]

sounds like you are not even understanding the point you're pushing, saying sugar is a stable source of carbohydrates when compared to oats really makes you look like a arrogant person here

No, YOU are not understanding my point. I said that oats provide the stable source of energy and table sugar does not. That was one of 2 differences I clearly pointed out between the two.

mad who? what the hell are you talking about bro? you're off topic here. I don't have all the time in the world to discuss idiotic issues

Madcow is the guy who posted up Bill Starr's 5x5 routine that a ton of guys are now using and having great success with. I guess you don't read the training section. That's cool.

hey, it sounds like you have a reading problem, did you read everything I provided? obiviously not. Read the scientific evidence behind my words. Your argument is false and unfounded. Stick to the point, you are the one making an argument equivalent to a 10 year old. 'NO NO YOU'RE WRONG' type of saying. Just admit you're wrong, which you are.

You've posted a bunch of studies indicating why one should avoid fructose. That's fine. I said a couple pages ago that fruit probably isn't the best source of calories, but if a guy wants to have a piece of fruit he shouldn't worry.

yes "cuz" you really know what you're talking "bout".

You didn't even acknowledge what I said about low GI carbs and their ability to replenish glycogen. So, (times are only for illustrative purposes) high GI carbs re-fill glycogen in a couple hours, low GI takes 10 hours. So what? Unless you were planning on doing another training session right away, what's the difference?

You've yet to defend any argument you've presented. You just call me an idiot and say I don't know what I'm talking about. Whether that's true or not, you're not doing a particularly good job of proving to me, or anyone else for that matter, why what you're saying is true and what I'm saying is not.

 

[JKurz1]

MR.X...I'm calling you and your theories out.....post a picture, today and shut me up.....If you practice what you preach and look in half-way decent shape...I'll bow down and say I was 100% in the wrong and apologize. I'll call my views ignorant and uneducated.

No pic? Well, that will speak for itself.....Cmon...everyone wants to see the man behind the "X"...........

 

[deltreefitness]

Mr.X - Chill the fuck out. Who ever said they were eating a bushels of aples a day???????? Christ. You've always slammed fruits and for the wrong reasons. The postive effects and nutrients loaded in apples, bananas and berries far outweigh any potential negatives IMHO. I'm talking an apple, a few berries, maybe a banana.......

Carth - you and I are both sub 10%......AND WE EAT FRUITS DAILY. MrX is, well, no one really knows.

Not only that but I really have to question the boiavailbity of getting most (if not all) of your nutrients and vitamins from pills or powder like Mr.X has alluded to.

 

[Smokescreen]

Without a doubt the best thing you can drink in the morning is Grapefruit Juice. Talk to any bodybuilder of health expert and you will find this to be the case. If you can get it fresh squeezed it tastes even better.
Of course anything in excess can have effects you don't want.
A half a glass is the way to go!

That stuff tastes REALLY bad bro!

 

[JKurz1]

That stuff tastes REALLY bad bro!

lol

 

[Tux]

Sweet-ass, a call-out AND more people who agree grapefruit juice tastes like what I imagine fresh-squeezed donkey-balls to taste like. I missed a lot in 36 hours

 

[Sub-Zero]

this needs more discussion

 

[NJRipped]

This would be an interesting little competition since so many of Mr. X's diets are stickied. Very doubtful to occur however since so few are able to follow a strict diet.

MR.X...I'm calling you and your theories out.....post a picture, today and shut me up.....If you practice what you preach and look in half-way decent shape...I'll bow down and say I was 100% in the wrong and apologize. I'll call my views ignorant and uneducated.

No pic? Well, that will speak for itself.....Cmon...everyone wants to see the man behind the "X"...........

 

[toufeksian]

i have a question about fructose
the liver can convert the fructose into glucose and send it to the bloodstream right?
if this is right , cant it be taken by the muscle to replenish muscle glycogen?
i know it would take a lot of time to do this comparing to the intake of dextrose for example, but in a general term, can fructose replenish muscle glycogen ?

PD: i know this is out of the topic about eating fruits , but its related to fructose

 

[Specialbearkg]

why all the hating on Mr.x?!?!?!

he just posted his opinion on the subject, argued a bit, and posted studies to back him up.

To call him out is retarded and makes you sound like a stupid illiterate meat head.

WOuld u agree or disagree that someone like Phil Jackson/Larry Brown/etc etc do not understand thier field better than 99% of the coaches in basketball in this case?!?! Yet, we have former players who have 'walked the walk' and have gone no where.... i.e Michael Jordan, Isiah Thomas, and some who have succeded, Joe Dumars.

JKurz, stfu for once. ur last resort is to call ppl out. You have a great physique no doubt, but this does not make u smarter or give u a better understanding of human biology. A geeky 100 lb chinese nerd may know more than u but doesnt care to APPLY the knowledge.

Eat a piece of fruit a day, and enjoy it (MY contribution)