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Fructose, Dairy and SUgar substitutes.....
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Joe Stenson
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Specialbearkg said:why all the hating on Mr.x?!?!?!
he just posted his opinion on the subject, argued a bit, and posted studies to back him up.
To call him out is retarded and makes you sound like a stupid illiterate meat head.
WOuld u agree or disagree that someone like Phil Jackson/Larry Brown/etc etc do not understand thier field better than 99% of the coaches in basketball in this case?!?! Yet, we have former players who have 'walked the walk' and have gone no where.... i.e Michael Jordan, Isiah Thomas, and some who have succeded, Joe Dumars.
JKurz, stfu for once. ur last resort is to call ppl out. You have a great physique no doubt, but this does not make u smarter or give u a better understanding of human biology. A geeky 100 lb chinese nerd may know more than u but doesnt care to APPLY the knowledge.
Eat a piece of fruit a day, and enjoy it(MY contribution)
I agree with most of your post. The only thing I don't like is that you're backing Mr. X using an argument OPPOSING what he said. He was the one who claimed Lyle McDonald was a flake and doesn't know jack about bodybuilding nutrition because he's not jacked. Just thought it was kind of ironic that you're backing a guy by using exactly what he argued against.
pintoca
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gjohnson5 said:You should go back into that hole u came from
lol, this has been an entertaining thread to read. Informative at some points too.
For what it is worth it, I don't eat any fruits, simply because I have never been a big fan of them, however, anything taken to the extremes will somehow backfire... so what is the issue if you eat a small apple a day or not? If you "feel" (and after a while we all learn to tell small changes in our bodies) that is hampering your progress, then drop it, evaluate for 2 weeks and compare.
For me it's simply a matter a convenience, I started out with a rather complicated diet with 10s of foods in it... now? I could count my staples with the fingers in one hand...over time you appreciate convenience over flavor... i'd care about flavor for my cheat meals.
I used the same "empty cals" argument when deciding to drop all peanut-related foods from my diets: Sure, I could have 2 handful of peanuts or a tbsp here and there of ANPB... will that be more satisfying than a chicken breast? maybe, for the 10 seconds it will take me to eat them... what will help me control cravings better? obvious...
Joe Stenson
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pintoca said:
Albeit not THE best source of healthy fats, peanuts and all-natural peanut butter are pretty good. And being fat, they should have quite a good affect on satiety. So, I don't really see where you're going with this...
pintoca
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Joe Stenson said:
simple, I use fats as just that: I take the flax or walnut oil by the tablespoon... people tend to see peanuts (a handfull here or there) as a snack... It is a pretty costly snack (caloric wise), so it is easy to over do it (since peanuts are ooohhh so tasty)... in my case I found it easier to simply add another chicken breast or so and skip peanuts as a snack.
The argumet is simple, you have a daily caloric budget, you see how you spend it, with some foods you can "stretch it" (in terms of satiety and nutrition value), with some foods you are simply splurging
Joe Stenson
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pintoca said:
Ok, I see. Thanks.
JKurz1
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I think the thread is dead...no realy point anymore...............here's the consenusu:
FRUIT - A PIECE A DAY IS ABSOLUTELY FINE AND WILL DO NOTHING BUT GOOD THINGS FOR YOUR BODY AND SYSTEM ON A CUT. STICK TO APPLES, BERRIES, AND LOWER GI FRUITS. WHEN BULKING, EAT AS MUCH AS YOU WOULD LIKE (INSIDE YOUR CALOIRC RANGE)
DAIRY - UP IN THE AIR......SOME DO SOME DONT....ON A BULK, THERE IS NO EASIER WAY TO GET A LOT OF CALS THAN 2% OR WHOLE MILK (OR ANPB!!) I'LL STICK TO DRY CURD COTTAGE CHEESE AND 1%........GOOD TO GO.
SUGAR SUBS - WE NEVER GOT INTO DEXTROSE....IVE NEVER USED IT AND DONT BELIEVE IT'S NECESSARY. AS FAR AS SPLENDA..........IT WILL PROB. GIVE US ALL CANCER IN 30 YEARS.
FRUIT - A PIECE A DAY IS ABSOLUTELY FINE AND WILL DO NOTHING BUT GOOD THINGS FOR YOUR BODY AND SYSTEM ON A CUT. STICK TO APPLES, BERRIES, AND LOWER GI FRUITS. WHEN BULKING, EAT AS MUCH AS YOU WOULD LIKE (INSIDE YOUR CALOIRC RANGE)
DAIRY - UP IN THE AIR......SOME DO SOME DONT....ON A BULK, THERE IS NO EASIER WAY TO GET A LOT OF CALS THAN 2% OR WHOLE MILK (OR ANPB!!) I'LL STICK TO DRY CURD COTTAGE CHEESE AND 1%........GOOD TO GO.
SUGAR SUBS - WE NEVER GOT INTO DEXTROSE....IVE NEVER USED IT AND DONT BELIEVE IT'S NECESSARY. AS FAR AS SPLENDA..........IT WILL PROB. GIVE US ALL CANCER IN 30 YEARS.
