First cycle. Thoughts and advice

[Ajainwa]

Introduction
Just turned 23 years old
5'8.5" 150 lbs (was about 165 lost 20lbs during basic training. Was about 8% bf then. Put back on 5lbs so far). Around 10% now. Been training consistently for 3 years. Started at 5'8" 120lbs in 2009. Looking to start my first cycle. Been researching for about 3 months. Wanted review on it.
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8 week cycle
100mg EOD test propionate 8 weeks
Want to put on lean mass without water retention so figure test prop would be best option out of different testosterones available

100 iu HCG daily (start week after first shot; stop end of week 6)
Research I did shows this dosage helps mimic normal LH levels without causing desensitization. Also what I read is helps for smooth transition to PCT and quicker recovery since system isn't completely shot when taking HCG.

40 mcg IGF LR3 daily in two doses (start week 1 stop week 7)
Research I did showed best results are shown with cycle no longer than 50 days. Using to strengthen tendons during cycle since test decreases collagen synthesis dramatically which leads to weak tendons.

.25 mg Arimidex daily 8 weeks
Prevent gyno on cycle.
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PCT

Nolva
40/40/20/20
Clomid
50/50/25/25
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Diet
Eat clean. 4000-5000 calories a day. Upwards of 250 grams of protein a day with atleast 500-700 grams carbs. Use rice and pasta for carbs usually. Don't like bread too much because of bloating. Use chicken, steak and fish for main sources of protein. Have protein shake after workout and sometimes one at night also if neccessary to hit my macros.
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Workout
Been doing strength training for past two years. Olympic lifting. Snatches, cleans, jerks, squats. I add some powerlifting like deadlifts also. Army has me doing bodybuilding stuff lately too. Training I'm in now (since I'm out of basic now) will have me working out 2 to 3 times a day all before lunch with weekends off. Alot of crossfit style stuff 3 times a week (Monday Wednesday Friday). Running and rucking twice a week usually Tuesday Thursday. Depending on if it's easy and not tired will try to throw in a body building workout in there too.
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That's what I've got. This site to has vast knowledgable base and alot of experienced users. I would love to here y'all's thoughts on everything. Thanks in advance.

 

[bonacris]

I'm not going to even look at the cycle because you are by no means ready for steroids.. If you truly ate 4-5k calories then you would weigh more than 150lbs. So your diet is off you probably getting nowhere near that amount.

First post your diet and we'll go from there

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[25homes]

Your pct needs some work too..

 

[jester72]

Introduction
Just turned 23 years old
5'8.5" 150 lbs (was about 165 lost 20lbs during basic training. Was about 8% bf then. Put back on 5lbs so far). Around 10% now. Been training consistently for 3 years. Started at 5'8" 120lbs in 2009. Looking to start my first cycle. Been researching for about 3 months. Wanted review on it.
-------------------------------------------
8 week cycle
100mg EOD test propionate 8 weeks
Want to put on lean mass without water retention so figure test prop would be best option out of different testosterones available

100 iu HCG daily (start week after first shot; stop end of week 6)
Research I did shows this dosage helps mimic normal LH levels without causing desensitization. Also what I read is helps for smooth transition to PCT and quicker recovery since system isn't completely shot when taking HCG.

40 mcg IGF LR3 daily in two doses (start week 1 stop week 7)
Research I did showed best results are shown with cycle no longer than 50 days. Using to strengthen tendons during cycle since test decreases collagen synthesis dramatically which leads to weak tendons.

.25 mg Arimidex daily 8 weeks
Prevent gyno on cycle.
--------------------------------------------
PCT

Nolva
40/40/20/20
Clomid
50/50/25/25
-------------------------------------------
Diet
Eat clean. 4000-5000 calories a day. Upwards of 250 grams of protein a day with atleast 500-700 grams carbs. Use rice and pasta for carbs usually. Don't like bread too much because of bloating. Use chicken, steak and fish for main sources of protein. Have protein shake after workout and sometimes one at night also if neccessary to hit my macros.
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Workout
Been doing strength training for past two years. Olympic lifting. Snatches, cleans, jerks, squats. I add some powerlifting like deadlifts also. Army has me doing bodybuilding stuff lately too. Training I'm in now (since I'm out of basic now) will have me working out 2 to 3 times a day all before lunch with weekends off. Alot of crossfit style stuff 3 times a week (Monday Wednesday Friday). Running and rucking twice a week usually Tuesday Thursday. Depending on if it's easy and not tired will try to throw in a body building workout in there too.
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That's what I've got. This site to has vast knowledgable base and alot of experienced users. I would love to here y'all's thoughts on everything. Thanks in advance.

At your height and weight, you are nowhere near genetic potential, and have no business even considering AAS at this point.
If you're eating 4000-5000 calories a day, you should be putting on muscle mass easily. If you're not, I seriously question your diet, and the accuracy of what you posted. Something is definitely not right.
Your concentration should be on dialing in a diet that works, and training naturally to your potential at this point. Forget the AAS for now.

 

[Ajainwa]

Sounds good guys. Was just looking for advice. Will hold off for a while. I was putting on good weight. Had reached 165. But at boot camp they feed you like 2000 calories a day, work you like 5000 to 6000 calories a day and give you like 3 to 4 hours of sleep. So all the work I did past couple years went away. I dropped all the way down to 145 at end of bootcamp. I've been out for only 2 weeks and started my diet again. Put back on 5 pounds. Ill continue to lift naturally till I reach what y'all think is a good weight and body fat %. With that said, how heavy should I be before I start?

 

[bonacris]

Sounds good guys. Was just looking for advice. Will hold off for a while. I was putting on good weight. Had reached 165. But at boot camp they feed you like 2000 calories a day, work you like 5000 to 6000 calories a day and give you like 3 to 4 hours of sleep. So all the work I did past couple years went away. I dropped all the way down to 145 at end of bootcamp. I've been out for only 2 weeks and started my diet again. Put back on 5 pounds. Ill continue to lift naturally till I reach what y'all think is a good weight and body fat %. With that said, how heavy should I be before I start?

There is no certain weight that you HAVE to be but if you have a good muscle base then it will be a lot easier to keep gains after a cycle.. aim for 170lbs at single digit bf and when you do start a cycle you will make serious progress.. but I would hold off for a few more months

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[Ajainwa]

Sounds good. Thanks for the help. I make my diet with what food they have at the dining facility here on base but ill give y'all a average day to day intake for me.
Breakfast
-6 hard boiled eggs
-2 eggs omelette with cheese and ham
-2 pieces French toast
-Cup of oatmeal
-Cup of fruits
-Some kind of meat (bacon/steak/ham/sausage) Basicly whatever they have that day.
-bowl of cereal
I stay away from milk because it gives me the shits.

Lunch
2-3 servings of meat (fish/chicken/pork are what they usually have. Serving I am estimating are around 6 oz) with chicken they usually give you a wing and breast or a thigh and leg. Fish Im pretty sure is 6oz. Used to weigh my food out so can estimate pretty accurately.
3-4 cups cooked rice (around 1.5 to 2 cups uncooked)
Serving of vegetables (usually steamed brocolli or fresh spinach leaves)

Mid day
Usually have around 50 gram protein shake of carnivore and two bannanas and some peanut butter

Dinner
Same as above for lunch

If haven't hit my macros at end of day, ill have another shake before bed. How is it looking? Anything I need to add or change? Any supplements y'all recommend?