First cycle advice - A bit of a long read. Any help appreciated.

[RodrigueZz]

Hello elitefitness. Thread title describes much of the reason why I have joined.

Currently I am floating around 142lbs. I am 63.5" tall and turning 21 in less than a month. I was hoping to do enough research on AAS and get my fitness level to a point where I would be comfortable doing a cycle sometime this summer.

Right now I am taking an ECA stack and trying to cut down. I am not sure what my body fat percentage is, but my abs are visible so I'd say if it is not under 10% it's gotta be right at 10.

My hope is to cut down really lean and then put on some lean mass with very minimal water weight and fat. I was wondering if there is an AAS out there that may help me with this goal in particular.

My current diet is inconsistent. I am a student and thus I am not as in control of what foods are readily available in my home as much as I would like to be. Usually though, I eat around 1600-1800 calories, with approximately 20% being carbs, 40% being protein and 40% being fats (I eat a lot of nuts, fish and chicken drum sticks to avoid carbs and meet protein needs. This results in high fat intake though). My body seems to be very carb sensitive which led to me eventually going in this direction with my diet.

Ideally I would like something that will allow me to keep my gains even after my cycle. I would be heartbroken to lose my gains if I ever decide that AAS usage is not for me and quit all together. I am also hopeful that I will not be forced to do cycle after cycle in order to maintain my gains.

My current workout routine is this

Day 1: Legs (Back squats, leg extensions, dumb bell lunges, straight leg dead lifts, hamstring curls, and calf raises)
Day 2: Biceps and shoulders (Seated military press, Barbell/dumb bell shrugs, Arnold Press, Dumb bell lateral raises, seated bicep curls, hammer curls, preacher curls, chin ups, reverse bicep curls)
Day 3: Abs, obliques and cardio (decline crunches, planks, leg raises, mountain climbers, Side Jack knives, Seated trunk rotations, Side bends, Sprints, elliptical, and sometimes jump rope)
Day 4: Back (Dead lifts, hyper extensions, lower back machine? [no idea what it's called], pull ups, barbell/cable rows, and Straight arm/lat pulldowns)
Day 5: Triceps and Chest (Bench press, Incline bench press, decline bench press, dumb bell bench press, dumb bell fly, push ups, dips, lying tricep extensions, tricep kickbacks, Skull crushers, and Rope tricep push down)
Day 6: Abs, obliques and cardio (decline crunches, planks, leg raises, mountain climbers, Side Jack knives, Seated trunk rotations, Side bends, Sprints, elliptical, and sometimes jump rope)

and then it repeats in a continuous loop.


Despite claims that the body needs time to rest I find myself feeling fine after almost a month of this routine. I quite like it, and justified the decision to hit the gym everyday with the idea that humans are designed for physical activity and in the Pre-Neolithic we were not granted "rest days". My body has not given me any signs that this is too much for me yet so I am going with it.


Current supplements:

Multivitamins, Fish oil, whey isolate, L-Carnitine Tartrate, ECA stack, ECGC, and 5-HTP.



If you require any more information just let me know. Hopefully there is a substance out there for me that will help me reach my goals.

 

[-SD-]

Too young for roids

 

[stevesmi]

first off you need to read the rules about posting underage. that will not be tolerated.

second off at 140 pounds you need to get on a better workout and diet routine asap. steroids are NOT for you in the near future

 

[-SD-]

first off you need to read the rules about posting underage. that will not be tolerated.

second off at 140 pounds you need to get on a better workout and diet routine asap. steroids are NOT for you in the near future

Too his slight credit he is only 5'3"

 

[RodrigueZz]

Too young for roids

"under 21. Well its prett frowned on but its best if you are over 21 for a number of reasons."
-needtogetaas

By the summer I will be 21. How is this too young? Arnold was Mr. Olympia at 22 which means he was already well into it by then as that kind of progress does not happen over night.

 

[buddhabuilder]

Arnold had a strong, developed base before any gear. He trained through his youth, including powerlifting moves, and years spent in the army where he had to invent exercises to challenge himself. No, you are not ready for gear, but you are in the right place to develop your muscularity. Use the search in the forums to come up with great workout routines that will blow your mind, then treat your diet like a science experiment to see how much muscle you can pack on. You will be able to do this for years before you will even want to think about gear, because you will be getting great results. Post your exercise routine in that forum and I'll give you quality feedback. Diet, the same. Welcome to bodybuilding!

 

[bobby winn]

Hello rodriguezz, An welcome to the forums, You will find alot of helpful people here, an ALOT of Great INFO,i have a Few questions for you,

1, being only 21 why would you want to start juicing ?
2, your 6'3 an weigh in at about 142, why in gods name are you trying to cut at that weight ?
3 how long have you been training ?

i have a few others i can think of but will settle for these right now, Not trying to be hard on you man, as I have just met you, But i really can say with a open mind an a heart that you really don't need to be any where near juice at being 21, you should really wait to even think about doing this, Because at your age you have alot of growing to do yet before you cross that line,think about it long an hard an then come back with your answers bud,being at around 142 you need to EAT an eat big man being around 6'3 my guess is that you should be around 195-230 tops,like i said not trying to be hard on you, for any reason, other than to make you stop an think about this, because once you start it's hard as hell to just stop,what happen to my post ? someone edited it :-(

 

[buddhabuilder]

He is 5'3"

 

[RodrigueZz]

I have been working out for over two years now, coming onto three. Training has been inconsistent at certain times due to school and employment obligations taking up too much time. I am not 6'3 though, I am 63" inches, also known as 5'3.

My mother is 5'4 and my father is 5'6. I am not sure if I will get taller, and any height I do gain will seemingly be minimal. I consume a lot of caffeine which does not help. All of this equates to the absence of fear that I may stunt my growth.

I am self conscious about my height, and when I see improvements in my physique it seems like a way I can compensate. If AAS can help me get the physique I want I will consider it. Currently I have some worries about it, but as I said by summer I am hoping to get over that and possess the necessary knowledge to look how I want and sculpt my body into something more aesthetic.

Getting hooked on it is something I did not consider much. My best response is that as a student the money I make at my crappy part time job does not afford me the luxury of being able to buy supplements every week. My usage would be moderated necessarily by my income.

I understand the concerns, and it is nice to see people are actually interested in helping even if it means telling someone no. If nothing else though I would like to know the reasons why it would not be ideal at this point in time. Are the changes in my body really going to be so drastic between now and when I am 23? (2 years?)

 

[buddhabuilder]

Bodybuilding is a science, and it takes a long time to learn even the basics. You can get great results without AAS for many years because your natty hormones will be going crazy well up into your mid-twenties. And all the ways you find to train and diet during this time will serve you well should you ever decide to juice. AAS alone will do nothing for you if you don't master all the other elements first.