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fast absorbing carbs in the morning?

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jst read in a magazine thats its okay to eat fast carbs in the morning upon wakening up.

i have a rough time to get all the carbs i need, does it mean that a gainer in the morning can solve my problems?
can i count those carbs as "real" carbs if u now what i mean.
 
Many bodybuilders now are having a bit up fast acting carbs upon waking up, it keeps the body a little more anti-catabolic.

Most guys just use 1-2tspb of Jam.
 
yes, I've read that as a summary of some study(s) in numerous mags over the last few months or so. similar to the anabolic window post workout, your body suppossedly wont store the carbs as fat, but rather use them to replenish glycogen post fast.
 
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Glycogen doesn't really get depleted from sleeping. The reason would actually be that you are less likely to store them in the morning because you will be active after that.

I still like to leave fast acting carbs or high GI carbs for post workout.

One thing to watch out for is if you create a big insulin spike at breakfast, you might crash after that.
 
Yep i read that a long time ago, at uni someone did a research study on it and since i have read it in many mags. i have my double protein shake, glutamine and 30g honey.

then give it 30 minutes then have my breakfast, i never seem to get a insulin crash. give it a go. it works well to boast me first thing
 
peteefs said:
Yep i read that a long time ago, at uni someone did a research study on it and since i have read it in many mags. i have my double protein shake, glutamine and 30g honey.

then give it 30 minutes then have my breakfast, i never seem to get a insulin crash. give it a go. it works well to boast me first thing

Honey is in fact a low GI carb as it's 50% fructose. It tastes good but I'm not sure it has other value, given that fructose is not the ideal sugar to exploit a window of anabolism.

I have never understood this supposed "crash" though from high GI carbs. I can't say I notice a difference bewteen eating potatoes or sweet potatoes, brown rice or white rice, nor do I notice a crash after waxy maize or malto or glucose.

Indeed, my professional atheletes are instructed that it doesn't matter.
 
Sim882 said:
Honey is in fact a low GI carb as it's 50% fructose. It tastes good but I'm not sure it has other value, given that fructose is not the ideal sugar to exploit a window of anabolism.

I have never understood this supposed "crash" though from high GI carbs. I can't say I notice a difference bewteen eating potatoes or sweet potatoes, brown rice or white rice, nor do I notice a crash after waxy maize or malto or glucose.

Indeed, my professional atheletes are instructed that it doesn't matter.

are you a personal trainer?
 
st8grad said:
Glycogen doesn't really get depleted from sleeping. The reason would actually be that you are less likely to store them in the morning because you will be active after that.

I still like to leave fast acting carbs or high GI carbs for post workout.

One thing to watch out for is if you create a big insulin spike at breakfast, you might crash after that.


Remember that when talking about glycogen there are two main categories, muscle glycogen and liver glycogen. Liver glycogen is responsible for maintenance of blood glucose. During sleep as glucose gets used up by the body liver glycogen will replenish and maintain blood glucose, therefore upon waking being carb deficient for a good couple of hours liver glycogen will be depleted.
 
i like to do cardio first thing in the morning before i take in anything and then i get some carbs not jam or anything like that but some hi fiber cereal that contains sugar also the sugar in the soy milk...
 
gstacker said:
i like to do cardio first thing in the morning before i take in anything and then i get some carbs not jam or anything like that but some hi fiber cereal that contains sugar also the sugar in the soy milk...

That is not the best of plans. Cardio on an empty stomach actually leads to a decrease in overall intensity. So it may be true that more fat is burned on an empty stomach - although it isn't much more - more calories are burned on when not in a fasted state. Furthermore the effects on metabolism throughout the day are supposed to be greater because of the increased intensity and calories burned. This allows you to continue to burn more calories throughout the day.

It's the same theory as lifting. Yes you are breaking down the muscle when lifting, but the growth comes from repair. So yeah you might burn more "fat" doing cardio on an empty stomach, the total calories burned are greater throughout the day when having something to eat first. The total effect is greater this way.

Plus, it lessens the chance that the body turns to muscle for fuel.
 
gstacker said:
i like to do cardio first thing in the morning before i take in anything and then i get some carbs not jam or anything like that but some hi fiber cereal that contains sugar also the sugar in the soy milk...

the latest research (no I dont have the links lol) says empty stomach + Leucine (one of the bcaa's) and glutamine (or a tiny touch of pure whey if you dont have the bcaa/glu)will not impair fat burning but WILL stop or reduce catabolism that'd you'd get with am cardio on an empy stomach.
 
deathdroprob said:
haha Youd think so ay, he knows almost everything, you ask him! Smart Guy

Afterall, knowledge is power!
I was curious because I was thinking of doing a degree in personal training. Not meaning to hijack the thread much :mix:
 
st8grad said:
That is not the best of plans. Cardio on an empty stomach actually leads to a decrease in overall intensity. So it may be true that more fat is burned on an empty stomach - although it isn't much more - more calories are burned on when not in a fasted state. Furthermore the effects on metabolism throughout the day are supposed to be greater because of the increased intensity and calories burned. This allows you to continue to burn more calories throughout the day.

It's the same theory as lifting. Yes you are breaking down the muscle when lifting, but the growth comes from repair. So yeah you might burn more "fat" doing cardio on an empty stomach, the total calories burned are greater throughout the day when having something to eat first. The total effect is greater this way.

Plus, it lessens the chance that the body turns to muscle for fuel.

agree
 
Wow found a old thread... Im still liking the empty stomach first thing in the am.... Totally diff thing as in a empty stomach in the middle or end of the day.. Anybody agree with me? Or am i just old school?
 
Wow found a old thread... Im still liking the empty stomach first thing in the am.... Totally diff thing as in a empty stomach in the middle or end of the day.. Anybody agree with me? Or am i just old school?

i have gotten better results with cardio post training and midafternoon 2 to 3 hours after my last protein/fat meal on off days.
 
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