Extreme Training Program

[Wildebeest]

Hi Y'alls,

This is my virgin post so here's a short background. Aussie, tall, dark and handsome. Alright fine, at least 3 out of the 4.

I do mixed martial arts and am used to spending about 2-3 hours a day in training. On top of that, I do 2 kettlebell sessions and 2 days of cardio.

Or DID to be precise.

Broke my foot a couple of months back, and won't be cleared to train for another 2-3 months. I can, however, run, swim and do weights. I've been browsing the site and the routines I've found seem to focus on relatively short periods in the gym. I'm assuming we could go beyond the traditional routines that seem to be catered to people who do not have the luxury of training all day, sleeping as much as they want and having the convenience to eat exactly what they need to, when they need to.

My questions are...

a) Given 12 hours a day available to train (uni holidays), is there a maximum OPTIMAL training load one could take on (weights + cardio) that goes beyond the traditional routines? I'm looking to cut 17lbs of fat in 8 weeks (currently 209lbs, ~22% bf).

b) Is there a supplementation regime that may assist with that? (I'm primarily thinking of recovery to accomodate the increased intensity) (I'm thinking Glutamine, Omega-3 and GPLC?)

Appreciate your input. Cheers!

 

[Wildebeest]

I guess if I were to summarise what I'm trying to ask it's...

Is it possible that More is More?

If so, how much more?

 

[zedhed]

Bro nice first post, decent question.
IMO there are a very few that can get away with more is more. For most of us that means trying it and then ending up over training and just petering out.
I know that for MMA you want your endurance up there and you also want decent strength.
To loose the fat its diet bro. To get to the other2 its training but.....you still need to give your bod time to recuperate, rest and rebuild.
Usually I dont get on the genetics band wagon but in your case I would say if you think your bod can take then give it a try and see how it works for you. Keep yourself aware of the signs of overtraining and good luck bro.

 

[zedhed]

However I do have a good bro Rick O Shea that this does work for....very well. So who knows bro, give it a shot and see how you do.

 

[Wildebeest]

Thanks for that. Yeah I understand the risks of overtraining and usually take one week of light training for every three weeks on routine.

I understand diet is definitely imperative in the weight loss. However, I've found the effect on body composition for me personally to be much greater when adopting higher training load + higher caloric consumption vs. lower training load + lower caloric consumption (given 500 calories deficit in both instances). My theory is the increased training improves macronutrient partitioning and higher calories support muscle growth and recovery. (Plus I don't feel bad about sneaking in a couple of squares of dark chocolate).

Would you happen to have a sample of your mate's routine?

 

[zedhed]

I dont bro BUT here is a link for you so that you can see what he was up to for the Body Recomp Challenge on here.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/diet-bodybuilding/12wk-shred-thon-732289.html

A lot to read thru but may provide some insight for you too.
Good luck bro.

 

[Wildebeest]

Sweet, thanks. That's definitely a valuable resource.

 

[zedhed]

Glad to help bro!

 

[lweaver]

As a sidenote, check out Chad Waterbury's stuff on t-nation if you get a chance. He writes a lot of MMA specific stuff.