Var, at least for me, helped me control me appetite. But, that's it.
My first cycle was:
1-12 weeks > prop 100mg/eod
1-12 weeks > primo 100mg/eod (just to help ease the prop pain)
1-6 weeks > winny 80mg/ed
6-12 weeks > var 80mg/ed
I was honestly around 21% BF and should have dieted down a bit before I started. I knew though (through research) that if I didn't diet and exercise properly, I'd be throwing my money away. So, because I love money more than I care for my vanity, I cycled anyways. I forced myself to eat right so I didn't waste $600 dollars. Guess what, it worked. I dropped down to 15% bf and I've never looked or felt this good in about 13 years.
If we get into the science of suppliments and aas, no proven research can back up the fact that a magic weight loss pill or oil fill syringe burns fat without diet and cardio. If it exist, show me...please....I'll take two.