Cycle diet help

[FFQuads]

30 years old
5'7
193 lbs.

I have pictures under members pic.

Cycle will be:
Cyp 250 ew 10 weeks
Andropen 275 ew 10 weeks
Deca 250 ew 10 weeks
D-bol 30mg ed for 4 weeks

Still have to get BF% down before I start. Current diet is working good but I need some help on the NEW diet when I start in about 45-60 days. I have to be careful or I'll get huge. Not what I'm looking for.... Looking to stay somewhat lean this time around and will let some size go if I can keep the gains leaner. Last time I got up around 235 lbs. and just to blocky. Below is my current diet...

2200-2400 cal.
300 protein
80-100 carb
etc...

8 am - cardio

9 am - Myoplex shake, one fruit, and one tablespoon real peanut butter

12 pm - 6 ounces lean meat and one cup green veg.

3 pm - two scoop protein and one fruit

3:30 pm - weight training

5 pm - two scoop protein

8 pm - 6 ounces lean meat and one cup green veg.

11 pm - two scoop protein

What do ya'll think? Thanks...

 

[SgtSlaughter]

WAY too many protein supplements.

Whole foods are always a better route IMHO.

 

[alex2678]

I've never taken anything before myself so you might get a better response on the Anabolic Forum. For me, however, I do plenty of mini bulking cutting cycles throughout the year alternating several weeks of high calories to gain muscle, strength and fat, then diet for a few weeks to get any newly gained fat off. Not sure if you can do this with AAS.

I'd use the mirror as a judge of how the diet's working. Start off at 25x bodyweight for the first week, take notice of the fat/muscle weight gain ratio and go from there decreasing or increasing calories as a result of how you look. Most AAS need excess calories to promote anabolism so I wouldn't get to caught up with staying really lean throughout your entire cycle.

 

[FFQuads]

Most the time I just don't have the option to eat solids all day. That's why you see all the protein supps. What's the thoughts on the diet when I start the cycle???

 

[FFQuads]

I've never taken anything before myself so you might get a better response on the Anabolic Forum. For me, however, I do plenty of mini bulking cutting cycles throughout the year alternating several weeks of high calories to gain muscle, strength and fat, then diet for a few weeks to get any newly gained fat off. Not sure if you can do this with AAS.

I'd use the mirror as a judge of how the diet's working. Start off at 25x bodyweight for the first week, take notice of the fat/muscle weight gain ratio and go from there decreasing or increasing calories as a result of how you look. Most AAS need excess calories to promote anabolism so I wouldn't get to caught up with staying really lean throughout your entire cycle.

25x?? That's a bit over 4000 cal. I think. What type of split? My protein is high and I don't think I'll need anymore but I'm a bit worried about adding all those carbs. I know I'll get some fat with this bulk but I'm trying to keep it as low as possible.

 

[alex2678]

25x?? That's a bit over 4000 cal. I think. What type of split? My protein is high and I don't think I'll need anymore but I'm a bit worried about adding all those carbs. I know I'll get some fat with this bulk but I'm trying to keep it as low as possible.

If 25 x bodyweight is too high for your body, you could always just go 500 calories above your daily maintenence per day and see how that works. I'd take advantage of the increase in glycogen synthase while your "on". The more water entering your cells the stronger you'll get which most of the time translates into more lean body mass gains. But for a guy your size I'd start with at least 3500 calories a day. Going down any further to stay lean would kind of defeat the purpose of the cycle. Most guys I've seen at the gym get pretty bloated when they're using AAS and then look bigger and leaner once the bloat and fat is gone.

 

[FFQuads]

I think I'll start those cals. pretty high.

 

[jpt]

i would say at the most you should drink 2 shakes a day...maybe pre and post workout....i'm sure you'll see good gains off the cycle but i would make sure to do it right....def less protein supps if you can. maybe carry some beef jerky's or walnuts or something you can carry around with you if convience is a problem! also, i see no good carb sources....brown rice, oatmeal etc....i don't know man....i would maybe hold off on the cycle until you can get the diet right. just my 2c.....good luck bro i hope you get great gains!

 

[SgtSlaughter]

good point on the quality carb sources, didn't notice.

Oatmeal (rolled and/or steel cut), yams (sweet potatoes, or "regular"), brown rice.

 

[decaNovice]

whats the best cals/fat/carbs/protein ratio again? mainly for losing fat and preparing for cycle....as above.....

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