CARDIO is a WASTE of TIME and ENERGY!!!

[Mike P.T.]

I never do cardio and I can get really lean. I think genetics of course plays the largest part, dieting and good overall weight training come an equal second, then cardio. I think cardio can help, but it's not the best thing you can do.

 

[drgoodbody]

I do...

limited cardio work. I find that a calorie restricted diet and more anabolics (higher doses) burn fat off me faster than any cardio program. So I do cardio for the cardiovascular benefits it brings and to keep a good sense of general physical fitness (don't wanna be one of those big lugs that gets winded going up a flight of stairs )

later,

DrG

 

[Jman88]

I'd rather cut a couple hundred calories and decrease my rest time between sets than peddle anymore on the damn bike.

 

[Enigmaxxx7]

I really dont think that dropping 400 calories from a diet will have the same effect as an hour on the treadmill. If that works for you then god bless you, but with my metabolism it just isnt good enough.

Im waiting for a reply from Mr. Nelson on this.

You bring up a good point about metabolism. I think that the cardio has many benefits, increased metabolism being one of them. Some people are genetically gifted to not have to do cardio. I for one believe in the cardio + diet theory. It works for me every year. My B.F. goes from about 10% to about 5% in the spring during my diet/exercise/cycle. I'd also like to hear Nelson Montana's take on it.

 

[MsBeverlyHills]

cutting cardio means really cutting back your cals if you gonna stay lean (for most peeps)... personally-- Id rather hit the treadmill for 40 minutes than give up my Guiness

 

[BrickGirl]

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I didn't even start cardio until October 7th, and I am naturally a fat ass, I have a really slow metabolism but that can be fixed with diet. If you have an excellent diet and are disciplined to stay on it. Then diet will get you a very long way. Heck, I didn't even add clen in until 3 weeks from the last pic. I think the majority of people that say they have to have cardio all the time, have a very bad diet or are not disciplined enough to stay on the diet they have. Again, I don't have a good metabolism, I probably have one of the worst

 

[Peyomp]

Proper diet = lower BF.

"Combined anerobic and aerobic training can reduce the gain in muscle girth" [1] and maximum strength [1, 2, 3].

1. Craig, B.W., J. Lucas, R. Pohlman and H. Stelling. The effects of running, weightlifting and a combination of both on growth hormone release. J. Appl. Sport Sci. Res. 5(4): 198-203. 1991

2. Hadmann, R. The available glycogen in man and the connection between rate of oxygen intake and carbohydrate usage. Acta Physiol. Scand. 40:305-330. 1957

3. Hickson, R.C. Interference of strength development by simultaneously training for strength and endurance. Eur. J. Appl. Physiol. 215:255-263. 1980

The most lasting fat loss 'gains' are the ones that occur by means of negative calorie balance over time. Also, this will have the least negative impact in a catabolic sense.

Oops, I forgot to mention that these references are through Essentials of Strength Training and Conditioning (NSCA), Thomas R. Baechle, Roger W. Earle (Editors), 2nd Ed.

Eur J Appl Physiol Occup Physiol 1980;45(2-3):255-63 Related Articles, Links


Interference of strength development by simultaneously training for strength and endurance.

Hickson RC.

The purpose of this study was to determine how individuals adapt to a combination of strength and endurance training as compared to the adaptations produced by either strength or endurance training separately. There were three exercise groups: a strength group (S) that exercised 30--40 min . day-1, 5 days . week-1, and endurance group (E) that exercised 40 min . day-1, 6 days . week-1; and an S and E group that performed the same daily exercise regimens as the S and E groups. After 10 weeks of training, VO2max increased approx. 25% when measured during bicycle exercise and 20% when measured during treadmill exercise in both E, and S and E groups. No increase in VO2max was observed in the S group. There was a consistent rate of development of leg-strength by the S group throughout the training, whereas the E group did not show any appreciable gains in strength. The rate of strength improvement by the S and E group was similar to the S group for the first 7 weeks of training, but subsequently leveled off and declined during the 9th and 10th weeks. These findings demonstrate that simultaneously training for S and E will result in a reduced capacity to develop strength, but will not affect the magnitude of increase in VO2max.

 

[TheDarkSideNinja]

Cardio...

Cardio should be the base to any program especially if u are experimenting with A.S. (I.M.O and many others) My reason is simple...how long do u wanna live??? Without a healthy heart what the hell do u have. Anybody who says cardio is a waste isn't seeing the big picture. And for all those who say what about the person who lives to be 70 or 80 and used a lot of A.S. well in my damn opinon they would have lived to be 100 or 110 if they did their daily cardio. Either way u look at it the heart is your most important muscles and many people sell themselves short on this and think it doesn't matter but when your 50 and on your deathbed you'll be wishing you did cardio when you were younger once again I.M.O!!! Have a nice day... ~JT~

 

[SofaGeorge]

I worked out at Gold's Venice for years and years... it was always interesting to me that I almost NEVER saw any pros doing cardio.

Seeing a pro on the treadmill was a huge rarity. Why?

 

[Themachine01]

I worked out at Gold's Venice for years and years... it was always interesting to me that I almost NEVER saw any pros doing cardio.

Seeing a pro on the treadmill was a huge rarity. Why?

My thoughts exactly, im missing something.