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Cardio breakthrough

SteelWeaver

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Hey, does anyone else get this?

About 40 minutes into my 60-min morning cardio session, it suddenly seems easier. Some days (ha, most days) it seems I just draaaagggg until I hit 40 minutes - have to push to keep heart rate up, just seems like hard work, then POOF! the last 20 mins are a breeze, smooth sailing, just fly on by. Now why is this?

Is it psychological? Or physiological? Is this the changeover to fatty acid use point?

Ideas?
 
I thought that only happened to ME! Weird, isn't it? I think it's a combination of endorphins and relief that it's almost over....
 
Yeah, I get this. If I'm 'dieting' and doing cardio FTITM then it hits me between 20 and 30 minutes. It certainly feels like my body has just discovered this untapped source of fat that it can burn in preference to glucose.........Then again, it could be almost anything like changes in insulin, cortisol, endorphins. Whatever. I don't seem to get the same feeling when doing the same kinda moderate intensity exercise while hiking, but when I hike I eat lots of carbs, so I definitely think it has a lot to do with burning more fat for fuel cf glucose.
 
domanmom said:
What kind of cardio are you doing?

Oh, you know, ride my bike mostly, or elliptical trainer, stairmaster in the gym. I've been keeping it between 60 and 70% MHR (according to the 220 minus age thing). If I go any lower than that I get paranoid I'm not working hard enough, since even 60-70 is quite a breeze.

MS - I never get this hiking either ... wouldn't that be nice if one did! :)
 
Happens to me right about the 15 min mark. I start out feeling lead-legged, then all of a sudden it's like my body wakes up and I'm flying, like I'm getting high just on air. I have to do cardio on an empty stomach, otherwise I feel like I'm carrying a brick in my stomach the whole time.
 
Yeap!! same here

I feel the same..usually the first 20 min are hell...then it just becomes easy.
Unfutonatly this last 3 days I have been able to do just 30min of cardio in AM..since I am spending most of my tine in AM on weight training. Then later at my lunch hour I go to the gym and do another 30min.
Guys/gals..is this ok?? I mean it should work almos the same ..right?
 
Re: Yeap!! same here

esteveze said:

Guys/gals..is this ok?? I mean it should work almos the same ..right?

Warlobo has a thread "why 30 + 30 does not equal 60".

My perspective on cardio is so different being an aerobics instructor... when I'm teaching, the hour flies by if everything is going well (they get the choreography, I don't have anyone trip, I don't have bored or frustrated ppl glaring at me) & ppl are energetic... the entire time flies & I have to watch that I don't run over.

Compartively, 'machine' cardio is pure torture. The first 20-30 min aren't so bad, but after that I'm REALLY waiting for it to be over. Somehow it doesn't feel right to me to be relatively STILL on a machine (seated on a bike, standing & just going up & down on a stair master, etc) relative to flying around the room doing aerobics. It's never an issue of being tired either, I do aerobics at such a high intensity that even 150 BPM on the bike isn't strenuous to me. (I aim for 140).
 
Lots to read.............hope this clears some cardio questions

Enjoy............Promet1



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