Blood work is back - Now what?

[njmuscleguy]

Triple J / iHulk: I think you guys are right... maybe I did need some more time. I thought 2 weeks was enough time to wait before PCT. Then 6 weeks of PCT. I figured after 2 months, I should've recovered somewhat. Maybe another course of Sustain will help? I'm just fearing the same fate as previous PCT's - even after several months my test levels were still shot. And the thought of having to wait 6-12 months to recover back to normal (if that even happens)... that's a long time!

thanks for the advice guys!

 

[Nelson Montana]

Deca and Nolva = the castration stack.

Again, do everything you can naturally. Do another couse of the Dermacrine. Try the UNLEASHED. It really works for a lot of guys. Anthony's MyogenX has been getting great feedback too. These all do different things. You need all the help you can get so why not take it? You have nothing to lose. I'll bet the numbers are a lot better, and even if they aren't high enough, you're still ahead of the game. HRT is serious. You want to be sure you did all you could before committing.

 

[njmuscleguy]

Deca and Nolva = the castration stack.

Again, do everything you can naturally. Do another couse of the Dermacrine. Try the UNLEASHED. It really works for a lot of guys. Anthony's MyogenX has been getting great feedback too. These all do different things. You need all the help you can get so why not take it? You have nothing to lose. I'll bet the numbers are a lot better, and even if they aren't high enough, you're still ahead of the game. HRT is serious. You want to be sure you did all you could before committing.

Here's my concern with any OTC approach... let's say they raise my test levels up... is this permanent (at least until the next cycle anyway)? I'm all for using Sustain again for several weeks, or Unleashed or MyogenX... but I don't want them to be a temporary fix or boost... I don't want to get a "false reading" right before I get tested again, then crash again right after that. Am I way off the mark here?

 

[Nelson Montana]

Here's my concern with any OTC approach... let's say they raise my test levels up... is this permanent (at least until the next cycle anyway)? I'm all for using Sustain again for several weeks, or Unleashed or MyogenX... but I don't want them to be a temporary fix or boost... I don't want to get a "false reading" right before I get tested again, then crash again right after that. Am I way off the mark here?

I understand what you're saying. The answer is yes and no. They aren't like bullshit prohormones where you'll get a spike and then a drop. Think of them like nutrients. They make what you have a healthy level. But it's not a one shot deal. Realize, over time, the longer you're off, the more your body will recover more and more on its own. If you need some help in the interum, so what?

 

[iHulk]

I understand what you're saying. The answer is yes and no. They aren't like bullshit prohormones where you'll get a spike and then a drop. Think of them like nutrients. They make what you have a healthy level. But it's not a one shot deal. Realize, over time, the longer you're off, the more your body will recover more and more on its own. If you need some help in the interum, so what?

thats sounds like a reasonable medium .. if the the stuff Nelson is promoting doesn't have those poorly labeled prohormones in it then perhaps its logical that it can at least help your body get back to homeostatis and at the same time not hinder your T and LH natural recovery. Just give yourself 4 more weeks (its not that long) and see where you are with another blood work.

 

[Varga]

Here's my concern with any OTC approach... let's say they raise my test levels up... is this permanent (at least until the next cycle anyway)? I'm all for using Sustain again for several weeks, or Unleashed or MyogenX... but I don't want them to be a temporary fix or boost... I don't want to get a "false reading" right before I get tested again, then crash again right after that. Am I way off the mark here?

Do you have problem recovering because of high estrogen or that your testies are not working(shrunk)?

 

[njmuscleguy]

Do you have problem recovering because of high estrogen or that your testies are not working(shrunk)?

neither.... it's not an estrogen problem... and my testicles are not shrunk, but aside from not recoverying to what's normal for me, my "normal" has always been on the low side since I was in my 20's.

 

[Varga]

neither.... it's not an estrogen problem... and my testicles are not shrunk, but aside from not recoverying to what's normal for me, my "normal" has always been on the low side since I was in my 20's.

The reason I asked is that after my last cycle I had higher estrogen level (had nice hair and skin but sucked for my sex drive LOL). Anyway, took aromasin for 10 days and sex drive was back. Just a suggestion

 

[Primordial Performance]

Here's my concern with any OTC approach... let's say they raise my test levels up... is this permanent (at least until the next cycle anyway)? I'm all for using Sustain again for several weeks, or Unleashed or MyogenX... but I don't want them to be a temporary fix or boost... I don't want to get a "false reading" right before I get tested again, then crash again right after that. Am I way off the mark here?

Here is the deal.

Get on the Sustain/MyogenX combo we discussed. Get blood tested in 4 weeks while you are still using these supplements so you can get a real accurate reading of what natural products can do for you.

If you jump off this stuff 1-2 weeks before the test to “clear out” then your T will likely be lower than normal because your just dropping your support and LH levels may be temporarily lowered. Maybe you had a bit of a crash from not getting your dose of Tribex those last couple days before the blood test… get what Im sayin?

Get stabilized with a natural supplemental protocol. See where it gets you, then worry about dialing things in later.

-Pp

 

[njmuscleguy]

Here is the deal.

Get on the Sustain/MyogenX combo we discussed. Get blood tested in 4 weeks while you are still using these supplements so you can get a real accurate reading of what natural products can do for you.

If you jump off this stuff 1-2 weeks before the test to “clear out” then your T will likely be lower than normal because your just dropping your support and LH levels may be temporarily lowered. Maybe you had a bit of a crash from not getting your dose of Tribex those last couple days before the blood test… get what Im sayin?

Get stabilized with a natural supplemental protocol. See where it gets you, then worry about dialing things in later.

-Pp

My roommate just got a new bottle of Sustain, I'll start using it and just replace his. MyogenX is on the way too. I'm still a little concerned about being on these two products up until I get tested again. Not that I'm jonesing to get onto HRT, but if I do legitimately need it, and these supplements raise my LH & test only temporarily, then the bloodwork won't be accurate? I will just have roller-coasted up and down... it's the "down" part I want to avoid. It's not a happy place! Of course, I'm also considering future cycles and how they will fit into the scheme of what's going on.

Well, we'll see what happens in a month. As always, thanks for the help!