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best MRP in terms of nutrition? (taste not important)

All of these are low glycemic carbs....the Instant breakfast is the best tasting fo the bunch.

Lee Labrada......Instant breakfast

VPX......Micelean

MHP Macroblic MRP
 
I agree with the Labrada of those above. Usually I get Biotest Grow and add fiber or whatever I want to it. It's quality and tastes as good as anything else, no aspartame, and it's cheap since they started selling it direct. I just tried ABB MRP Force chocolate today (surprised they made one) and it tastes not quite as good but still ok, and looks like it has a decent profile. It comes in a can like the Grow and costs about the same per serving. Compared to those mentioned above, it's probably closest to the Labrada as far as profile.


ABB MRP Force Chocolate

Nutrition Facts
Serving Size: 1 Packet
Servings Per Container: 20

Amount Per Serving

Calories: 320
Calories From Fat: 30

% Daily Value

Total Fat 3.5g 5%
Saturated Fat 2g 10%
Cholesterol 40mg 13%
Sodium 380mg 16%
Potassium 500mg 14%
Total Carbohydrates 27g 9%
Dietary Fiber 8g 32%
Sugars 4g †
Protein 45g 90%
Vitamin A 45% Biotin 45%
Vitamin C 90% Pantothenic Acid 45%
Calcium 90% Phosphorus 60%
Iron 50% Iodine 45%
Vitamin E 90% Magnesium 60%
Thiamin 45% Zinc 45%
Riboflavin 45% Selenium 30%
Niacin 45% Copper 45%
Vitamin B6 45% Manganese 90%
Folic Acid 45% Chromium 70%
Vitamin B12 45% Molybdenum 60%

†Daily Value not established


INGREDIENTS: Protein Blend (Whey Protein Concentrate, Calcium Caseinate, Whey Protein Isolate), Maltodextrin, Cocoa, Maltodextrin (Dietary Fiber), Vitamin and Mineral Blend (diMagnesium Phosphate, Calcium Carbonate, triCalcium Phosphate, Maltodextrin, Ascorbic Acid, Ferric Orthophosphate, Molybdenum Amino Acid Chelate, d-alpha Tocopheryl Acetate, Boron Proteinate, Niacinamide, Zinc Oxide, Manganese Sulfate, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Selenomethionine, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Vitamin A Palmitate, Cupric Oxide, Chromium Polynicotinate, Thiamin Hydrochloride, Riboflavin, Beta Carotene, Folic Acid, Biotin, Potassium Iodide, Cyanocobalamin), Corn Syrup Solids, Natural and Artificial Flavors, Gum Blend (Cellulose Gum, Xanthan Gum, Carrageenan Gum), Salt, Lecithin, Sucralose, Acesulfame Potassium.
 
cubbybear said:
I agree with the Labrada of those above. Usually I get Biotest Grow and add fiber or whatever I want to it. It's quality and tastes as good as anything else, no aspartame, and it's cheap since they started selling it direct. I just tried ABB MRP Force chocolate today (surprised they made one) and it tastes not quite as good but still ok, and looks like it has a decent profile. It comes in a can like the Grow and costs about the same per serving. Compared to those mentioned above, it's probably closest to the Labrada as far as profile.


ABB MRP Force Chocolate

Nutrition Facts
Serving Size: 1 Packet
Servings Per Container: 20

Amount Per Serving

Calories: 320
Calories From Fat: 30

% Daily Value

Total Fat 3.5g 5%
Saturated Fat 2g 10%
Cholesterol 40mg 13%
Sodium 380mg 16%
Potassium 500mg 14%
Total Carbohydrates 27g 9%
Dietary Fiber 8g 32%
Sugars 4g †
Protein 45g 90%
Vitamin A 45% Biotin 45%
Vitamin C 90% Pantothenic Acid 45%
Calcium 90% Phosphorus 60%
Iron 50% Iodine 45%
Vitamin E 90% Magnesium 60%
Thiamin 45% Zinc 45%
Riboflavin 45% Selenium 30%
Niacin 45% Copper 45%
Vitamin B6 45% Manganese 90%
Folic Acid 45% Chromium 70%
Vitamin B12 45% Molybdenum 60%

†Daily Value not established


INGREDIENTS: Protein Blend (Whey Protein Concentrate, Calcium Caseinate, Whey Protein Isolate), Maltodextrin, Cocoa, Maltodextrin (Dietary Fiber), Vitamin and Mineral Blend (diMagnesium Phosphate, Calcium Carbonate, triCalcium Phosphate, Maltodextrin, Ascorbic Acid, Ferric Orthophosphate, Molybdenum Amino Acid Chelate, d-alpha Tocopheryl Acetate, Boron Proteinate, Niacinamide, Zinc Oxide, Manganese Sulfate, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Selenomethionine, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Vitamin A Palmitate, Cupric Oxide, Chromium Polynicotinate, Thiamin Hydrochloride, Riboflavin, Beta Carotene, Folic Acid, Biotin, Potassium Iodide, Cyanocobalamin), Corn Syrup Solids, Natural and Artificial Flavors, Gum Blend (Cellulose Gum, Xanthan Gum, Carrageenan Gum), Salt, Lecithin, Sucralose, Acesulfame Potassium.

Maltodextrin = Sugar. That MRP sucks.

VPX makes a good one. Lean mass Matrix by ProLab is an excellent choice as well.
 
If you notice it also has corn syrup solids, which "suck" as well. Met Rx, if you remember, also caught a lot of flak for that because they had it in their formula as well, but it was still a good product designed to be low glycemic. Yes these are high glycemic (higher than table sugar on the glycemic index). The VPX and Prolab ads are very impressive and they are great products, and so is Labrada's (which is my favorite MRP). But realistically there is more to it than just the glycemic index rating of those individual ingredients alone. When combined with the protein and dietary fiber, the speed of absorption is slowed way down so it doesn't increase blood sugar and insulin levels as much as we might initially think. Protein Factory allows you to create your own custom protein blend and they have a lot of interesting information, very informative, about the different ingredients such as maltodextrin that you can choose or not to include. What would be fascinating to know is how each MRP product would compare side-by-side as far as rate of absorbtion and how much they would actually trigger insulin release and raise blood sugar levels by comparison with each other. The Prolab's carbs may be slower digesting but there are more of them, while the ABB product might arguably have less desirable ingredients but has a higher protein to carb or fat ratio and twice the fiber so I'm thinking it should be fine unless perhaps you are precontest and your strategy does not allow for MRP's. EAS's new formula myoplex deluxe is also in this "whole food" MRP category. I just wouldn't take any of these products close to bedtime though because I cut out carbs in the evening.
 
cubbybear said:
If you notice it also has corn syrup solids, which "suck" as well. Met Rx, if you remember, also caught a lot of flak for that because they had it in their formula as well, but it was still a good product designed to be low glycemic. Yes these are high glycemic (higher than table sugar on the glycemic index). The VPX and Prolab ads are very impressive and they are great products, and so is Labrada's (which is my favorite MRP). But realistically there is more to it than just the glycemic index rating of those individual ingredients alone. When combined with the protein and dietary fiber, the speed of absorption is slowed way down so it doesn't increase blood sugar and insulin levels as much as we might initially think. Protein Factory allows you to create your own custom protein blend and they have a lot of interesting information, very informative, about the different ingredients such as maltodextrin that you can choose or not to include. What would be fascinating to know is how each MRP product would compare side-by-side as far as rate of absorbtion and how much they would actually trigger insulin release and raise blood sugar levels by comparison with each other. The Prolab's carbs may be slower digesting but there are more of them, while the ABB product might arguably have less desirable ingredients but has a higher protein to carb or fat ratio and twice the fiber so I'm thinking it should be fine unless perhaps you are precontest and your strategy does not allow for MRP's. EAS's new formula myoplex deluxe is also in this "whole food" MRP category. I just wouldn't take any of these products close to bedtime though because I cut out carbs in the evening.

How do you guys feel about Myoplex---Is it junk? I work til 1:00am. I usually eat a myoplex at like 11:45pm then eat cottage cheese with almonds when I get home before bed. Is this cool or should I try and get the myoplex in earlier and replace the 11:45 shake with say chicken and broccoli?
 
slyder190 said:
VPX makes a good one. Lean mass Matrix by ProLab is an excellent choice as well.

Agreed.

If you want the ultimate MRP, do it yourself...

* Oats
* Whey/Casein/egg blend
* EFA's
 
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