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SwitchedOn
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I've done more than my share of DNP cycles within the last couple years and without a doubt it works, and works well when used responsibly. I believe whoever is researching the use of DNP can find enough info to use it as responsibly as possible given the circumstances we live under (legality, public stigmatism, health risks). However NOONE can say that they will be healthy 20 years from now after doing a few cycles of DNP. I did hours upon hours of research into DNP, used it, and was satisfied with the results. And although I have yet to develop any health problems that may be DNP related that's not to say I never will.
I have a wife and 2 young girls to support and I often wonder about the "wisdom" of using DNP- especially if it indirectly causes my life to end even just a year prematurely. Fuck that shit, I want to spend as much time with my family and do my best to provide for them for as long as I can.
Although I believe I won't kill myself if I use DNP another few times I won't risk the chance it may lead me to a shorter life, or the possibility of developing cancer. I'd rather diet a few more weeks to get the results I'd obtain from DNP.
Sorry to hear about the loss of a good bro. RIP John_U
I have a wife and 2 young girls to support and I often wonder about the "wisdom" of using DNP- especially if it indirectly causes my life to end even just a year prematurely. Fuck that shit, I want to spend as much time with my family and do my best to provide for them for as long as I can.
Although I believe I won't kill myself if I use DNP another few times I won't risk the chance it may lead me to a shorter life, or the possibility of developing cancer. I'd rather diet a few more weeks to get the results I'd obtain from DNP.
Sorry to hear about the loss of a good bro. RIP John_U
this is more likely to be the real cause; many heart attacks are preceded by flu-like illnesses. Athletes are easy victims to death after benign infection because they do not allow their bodies (esp their heart) to fully recover. Of course, DNP elevates your resting metabolism and it could well have been a contributor to his death but simple excercise has the same effect; there was a case of an amateur soccer player in the media here who came down with the flu but was forced to take part in an important match by his team - he died on the playing field; he had heart inflammation caused by the flu virus ...Juice Authority said:
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HULKSTER
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Fonz said:
Its called a superior intelligence man.
Fonz
If you were so intelligent, then you would realize the difference between intelligence and knowledge. Spewing out facts that you derived from reading a book is not indicative of intelligence. Intelligence is mostly genetic, so no matter how much you strive for a "superior" education, your level of intelligence is pretty much dictated to you by the time you were born. BTW, I received a 1390 on my SATs, does that mean I'm intelligent? No. It just means I have a strong command of mathematics and the English language.
But if you want to create your own version of the English language and state that the word intelligence will now be in the same category as knowledge, go right ahead. Based on that logic, my intelligence is FAR superior to yours, since I double-majored in History and Biology in college. Currently, I am a LPN. And I'm sure as hell that I have more knowledge about history and biology than you do-----but is that an indication of intelligence? Nope. Just means I am more educated than you in the fields of history and biology/physiology.
It's amazing that a post about someones death can become a pissing match with posturing about ones superior intelligence.
Un-fucking believable. I'm staying out of that one.
Anyway, there was a post about 6 months ago with a similar story. It was about 6 months prior to that were someone else had died and each time there were words of regret and remorse.
This is the problem. And this is why I have the perspective that I do. I was a child of the 60's. I grew up with all the sensationalism and misinformation about drug use, mainly pot. Because the rhetoric was so off base, we (those of us between 15 and 20) all assumed the powers that be didn't know what they were talking about. If they were wrong about pot, they were probably wrong about everything else. I had friends who could explain the process of how the chemistry of the brain was affected by a certain drug better than any chemistry professor. And with that knowledge came an arrogence. They knew more. They could control it. Bad things only happen to stupid people -- to the "other" guy.
Needless to say, many of those friends are no longer here. They died long before their lives had a chance to accomplish something meaningful. The coroners report listed the deaths as "drug overdose", but I disagree. What they really died from was denial.
Every time something like this happens I think back to what Dan Duchaine said to me not long before he died. He said; "Just because the medical establishment was mistaken about certain aspects of steroids, didn't mean they were mistaken about everything. That's where we went wrong."
Dan was a genius, and even he was wrong about a lot of things. Still, that was the past. We know more now. We learned from his mistakes. He didn't have the informaton we have now. It could never happen again.
See you in 6 months.
Un-fucking believable. I'm staying out of that one.
Anyway, there was a post about 6 months ago with a similar story. It was about 6 months prior to that were someone else had died and each time there were words of regret and remorse.
This is the problem. And this is why I have the perspective that I do. I was a child of the 60's. I grew up with all the sensationalism and misinformation about drug use, mainly pot. Because the rhetoric was so off base, we (those of us between 15 and 20) all assumed the powers that be didn't know what they were talking about. If they were wrong about pot, they were probably wrong about everything else. I had friends who could explain the process of how the chemistry of the brain was affected by a certain drug better than any chemistry professor. And with that knowledge came an arrogence. They knew more. They could control it. Bad things only happen to stupid people -- to the "other" guy.
Needless to say, many of those friends are no longer here. They died long before their lives had a chance to accomplish something meaningful. The coroners report listed the deaths as "drug overdose", but I disagree. What they really died from was denial.
Every time something like this happens I think back to what Dan Duchaine said to me not long before he died. He said; "Just because the medical establishment was mistaken about certain aspects of steroids, didn't mean they were mistaken about everything. That's where we went wrong."
Dan was a genius, and even he was wrong about a lot of things. Still, that was the past. We know more now. We learned from his mistakes. He didn't have the informaton we have now. It could never happen again.
See you in 6 months.
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HULKSTER
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Nelson Montana said:
First of all, if you read the posts, it's OBVIOUS that Fonz started launching numerous insults towards me based on his arrogant ego coming out to play on the EF playground.
And if I recall, Nelson, you and Fonz have had some pretty nasty flame wars on EF yourselves.
................HULKSTER said:
First of all, if you read the posts, it's OBVIOUS that Fonz started launching numerous insults towards me based on his arrogant ego coming out to play on the EF playground.
And if I recall, Nelson, you and Fonz have had some pretty nasty flame wars on EF yourselves.
Wasn't blaming you bro. I know Fonz started it. He is obviously void of class and engorged with ego. The fact that the argument was taking place on this thread was in especially bad taste. It's like fighting at a funeral.
Bulldog_10
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Bulldog_10 said:I didn't know the guy...but that sucks all the same.
Oh, and this probably shouldn't be turned into one of those, DNP sucks threads...let's keep the focus on the man who passed away.
I hope no one really died.... but I have a hard time believing that a "well known and respected DNP guru" would have fucked up.
Also, with drugs involved... what roommate would jump on the computer and post his death online? I wouldn't. How would this roommate know what site he was a mod at?
I dont' know... I keep thinking something is not being told here. Maybe we are missing something. Maybe there were other things involved we don't know about.
A terrible loss anyway.
Also, with drugs involved... what roommate would jump on the computer and post his death online? I wouldn't. How would this roommate know what site he was a mod at?
I dont' know... I keep thinking something is not being told here. Maybe we are missing something. Maybe there were other things involved we don't know about.
A terrible loss anyway.
