16 Week Cycle Needs expert opinions and critiques

[zsimpson22]

Damn bro. 70mg dbol a day? That's unnecessary in my opinion. 30-40mg of dbol gives you the full potential of it with the least sides, and not to mention liver strain. And I've never done tren, but 700 sounds to high?? But ive only done research on tren a so can't say for sure.

 

[zsimpson22]

Do this
Deca 1-14 @500-600
Npp 1-5 @150 eod

What are you talking about bro? Running nandrolone without test isn't a good idea. And running TWO types of nandrolone without test is DEFINITELY not a good idea.

 

[Italiangymrat]

I meant to add that to his cycle
Instead of him doing 8 weeks of npp to just do it for 4 weeks at 150eod and deca at 500-600 ew for 14, test at 400 and tren at 700 for 12. Frontload 1-5 dbol at 70 and prop 100eod. Bridge prop eod at 100, tren a at 150 eod, winny at 50 eod 13-16 then pct

 

[Italiangymrat]

This is a good idea in my opinion
Test @400 and tren e @ 700 1-12.
Test will just be used to maintain a stable libido, less estrogen sides from test. Since these two fight for the same receptor it would be wise to just keep the tren high and test low(just for maintenance. Thats what has worked best for me in the past.

Ive ran
test @1000 1-16
Tren @500. 1-16
With more sides, bloat, gain fat, my waist went from a 32-34, i gained 30 but most of it was fat/water and i did not look lean after this cycle.
Then i was suggest to flip it around
Test @400
Tren @800
Minimal sides, i looked leaner, better and felt better, i was stronger, more vascular, i dropped fat, my waist size went from a 33 to a 30, gained 25 pounds of lean muscle in 14 weeks.
So its your choice
I would recommend you to keep the tren higher than the test and just use test for maintenance

 

[phil.m.r23]

That sounds very interesting! What else do you guys recommend?

 

[gymjunkie09]

Do this
Deca 1-14 @500-600
Npp 1-5 @150 eod

this makes sense but damn thats a long time to run deca, you must be on trt? lol

 

[phil.m.r23]

Hahah it makes sense but i am not on trt...
Thats why i want to run npp for just eight weeks.
Deca would take 4-6 to kick in and i would have to run it for at least 12-14 weeks and i dont wanna do that.

 

[phil.m.r23]

bump!

 

[stingray23]

what ever happened to less is more?

 

[RADAR]

Why is adding nolva asking for trouble?

running any Progesterone agent (Deca,Tren) with nova is just asking for sides.