1gram of test PCT?

[frankcastle29]

My buddy is coming off 1 gram of test and want to go to 60mg of TBOL ED, and 800mg of primo EW, 4IU HGH ED as well, run it for around 12 weeks, what is the best way how to come off the test? we were debating if he could get away with just stopping the test and going right to primo and tbol as a bridge, trying to avoid loss of libido btw, the test is ennanthate btw

 

[RickRock13]

Going to the other compounds is just extending the cycle. It has nothing to do with recovering from test. You will still be shutdown. I'm not sure why he would run so much test anyways. That's way too high. Once he comes off of all juice, is when recovery starts with a proper PCT like this:


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[nwamuscle]

I agree with RickRock13, thats a lot of test. Bridging is not going to allow him to recover, at all. There is the 10mg dbol bridge, but there aren't too many studies to either validate or falsify it's claims. I would either stop or taper the test e down for a few weeks so he doesn't go crazy. Maybe take it down 200 mg a week for the next few weeks, then wait 3 weeks after the last Test E injection to start RickRock13's suggested PCT. The tapering will help prevent a psychological crash, not the HPTA crash–– He's already shut down.

Finally, get your buddy to look into blasting some HCG while tapering down. This has always helped me. BUT DO NOT use the HCG during the PCT...

 

[jester72]

I say full PCT, then a Test/Primo/T-Bol cycle, or whatever he wants to run. 4iu/day of HGH for 12 weeks is also a waste. He'll need to run it 6 months or so to start seeing any real results from it.
I hope he doesn't even mention slin, because wanting to run HGH for 12 weeks already shows me he doesn't know what he's doing with it.

 

[WolfpackAlpha]

For this kind of dosage you need to do a full PCT, clomid/nolvadex/ostarine/n2guard with an HCGenerate kickstart.

 

[frankcastle29]

I say full PCT, then a Test/Primo/T-Bol cycle, or whatever he wants to run. 4iu/day of HGH for 12 weeks is also a waste. He'll need to run it 6 months or so to start seeing any real results from it.
I hope he doesn't even mention slin, because wanting to run HGH for 12 weeks already shows me he doesn't know what he's doing with it.

Nah hes been hgh for 8 mos at 4iu a day, not sure yet if its working or if we think its waste of timem nything over 4iu is total nightmare with carpal tunnel......

 

[frankcastle29]

I agree with RickRock13, thats a lot of test. Bridging is not going to allow him to recover, at all. There is the 10mg dbol bridge, but there aren't too many studies to either validate or falsify it's claims. I would either stop or taper the test e down for a few weeks so he doesn't go crazy. Maybe take it down 200 mg a week for the next few weeks, then wait 3 weeks after the last Test E injection to start RickRock13's suggested PCT. The tapering will help prevent a psychological crash, not the HPTA crash–– He's already shut down.

Finally, get your buddy to look into blasting some HCG while tapering down. This has always helped me. BUT DO NOT use the HCG during the PCT...

whats the HCGprotocol for the taper? so when he does 750mg on the first taper week, how does HCG fit into that equation?

 

[jester72]

Nah hes been hgh for 8 mos at 4iu a day, not sure yet if its working or if we think its waste of timem nything over 4iu is total nightmare with carpal tunnel......

Ahh, ok. Neglected to mention he was running it long term ready. I'd stick with the 4iu/day if his carpal tunnel sides are bad. At 8 months though, he should be seeing results.

 

[Anabolic chest]

He needs to stop the testosterone, blast some hcg and then run pct. I prefer clomid/nolva to some of the stuff these guys are always pushing lol

 

[shaved_ape]

Hcg protocol for pre PCT without prior use of HCG throughout cycle.

Calculate the remaining compound active in the body with a PCT calculator. and use at least 1000iu week untill compound has cleared then begin PCT, remember HCG will increase estro as well so use plenty of AI.


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