working on a new routine

[the.gladiator1987]

yeah i was thinking about doing that to be honest like getting 15 reps one workout (5x3) and then spreading it out... good idea i'll definitely shoot for 5x3 next time. Also, if it makes any difference i pause for a second or two at the bottom and i make sure to use full ROM.

glad- i think you'll really find front squats easier to keep good form with.... and clean and jerks are fun as hell too

I like what odo said about lat pulldowns. FUCK anything with a machine, fuckin stupid. Well actually i did lat pulldowns today haha but I did pullups first. Fuck machines. I fucking hate them. Go for a goal number of pullups like oso said and try to get more each time. Youll eventual;ly find what works for you.

 

[JDid23]

I like what odo said about lat pulldowns. FUCK anything with a machine, fuckin stupid. Well actually i did lat pulldowns today haha but I did pullups first. Fuck machines. I fucking hate them. Go for a goal number of pullups like oso said and try to get more each time. Youll eventual;ly find what works for you.

i agree that machines are not optimal, but are some free weights that much better in all cases? Take triceps for example; is doing overhead tricep extensions or cgbp really going to be THAT much better for building strong triceps than tricep pushdowns? I didn't say weighted dips because that's not strictly a tricep exercises, but i am talking about movements to compliment a good program. There aren't a ton of good quad exercises... is it that bad to do leg press during a leg workout even if you're already doing squats? Machines should never be the foundation of a program, but if you have your big lifts in there, then why not have them as some accessory work?

and lol @ you doing lat pulldowns today and saying that at the end haha

 

[the.gladiator1987]

i agree that machines are not optimal, but are some free weights that much better in all cases? Take triceps for example; is doing overhead tricep extensions or cgbp really going to be THAT much better for building strong triceps than tricep pushdowns? I didn't say weighted dips because that's not strictly a tricep exercises, but i am talking about movements to compliment a good program. There aren't a ton of good quad exercises... is it that bad to do leg press during a leg workout even if you're already doing squats? Machines should never be the foundation of a program, but if you have your big lifts in there, then why not have them as some accessory work?

and lol @ you doing lat pulldowns today and saying that at the end haha

lol i know, kind of contradicting? But I just hate seeing people base their workouts on machines. Its because they are easier plain and simple

You are right some accessory work is ok, not saying machines are useless, but try to be as free weight as possible in my book. Its just better for your body. Triceps are kinda different because its such a small muscle. I would still do CGBP, strict dips with no chest leaning and elbows in, and then some skullcrushers. I do tri extensions tho hahaha

Legs, why not some bb lunges instead of leg press? Idk i could be wrong bro. Its just a pet peave of mine. Its probably fine to have machines as long as a good foundation of compound exercises are there as well. fml

 

[Tblock1]

lol i know, kind of contradicting? But I just hate seeing people base their workouts on machines. Its because they are easier plain and simple

You are right some accessory work is ok, not saying machines are useless, but try to be as free weight as possible in my book. Its just better for your body. Triceps are kinda different because its such a small muscle. I would still do CGBP, strict dips with no chest leaning and elbows in, and then some skullcrushers. I do tri extensions tho hahaha

Legs, why not some bb lunges instead of leg press? Idk i could be wrong bro. Its just a pet peave of mine. Its probably fine to have machines as long as a good foundation of compound exercises are there as well. fml

Dude one thing though: Triceps are not a small muscle. They make up a good portion of the arm.

 

[Andalite]

Dude one thing though: Triceps are not a small muscle. They make up a good portion of the arm.

I agree. I need to start hitting them more than once a month lol...

 

[the.gladiator1987]

your tricep is small compared to your quad, hamstring, glutes, chest, lats, and traps.

But yea I mean heavy bench, cgbp, dips and skullcrushers will give you more size than tricep ext, db kickbacks and db overhead extensions

 

[oso0960]

hahaha nice . Machines are a no-no..people say they are ok if injured but I still say not so much..rest if you're injured lol. Cables are ok...but free weight is usually the best..IMO anyway.

You don't ever need a machine. Squats are great...so many variations. Single leg movements are also great and usually neglected...also so many variations.. I guess if you're like Ronnie Coleman and need to bring out a certain set of fibers moreso than others for a competition then machines and isolation shit might be useful, but 99% of the population is too fragile and small to worry about that anyway.

 

[the.gladiator1987]

hahaha nice . Machines are a no-no..people say they are ok if injured but I still say not so much..rest if you're injured lol. Cables are ok...but free weight is usually the best..IMO anyway.

You don't ever need a machine. Squats are great...so many variations. Single leg movements are also great and usually neglected...also so many variations.. I guess if you're like Ronnie Coleman and need to bring out a certain set of fibers moreso than others for a competition then machines and isolation shit might be useful, but 99% of the population is too fragile and small to worry about that anyway.

lol agreed! shit machines are useless. Its a fixed plane of motion, like your body ever needs that. Cables are better like you say.

 

[Andalite]

your tricep is small compared to your quad, hamstring, glutes, chest, lats, and traps.

But yea I mean heavy bench, cgbp, dips and skullcrushers will give you more size than tricep ext, db kickbacks and db overhead extensions

I agree.

 

[JDid23]

ok guys tomorrow i have the following; going for PRs on deads and bench - 235x5 deadlift and 140x4-8 bench press... if i hit 6+ reps on 140 i'll up the weight. If I don't struggle as much with 235 i'll up to 245 next workout...



Day 3
Deadlift- 1x6, 1 set backoff set of double overhand
Bench- 2x5-8, backoff set of 1x8-15
Alt DB Curls- 3 sets
Seated DB Press- 3x8-12
Seated Calves- 4-6 sets
CGBP- 3x8-12



any ideas on order of the lifts? i originally had dead -> bench -> seated db press -> curls -> CGBP -> calves, but i think that doing curls in between bench and seated DB might be good to give myself some rest, and calves in between seated db press and cgbp to also give myself some more rest.

my shoulders are crazy sore today from clean and push press (not a jerk) and my quads are also pretty sore!! will start out with 25s on seated DB press and go with it from there- quads have been noticeably growing at least to my eyes.. will post some more pics at the end of the month