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Lol jus playin man. You just want to lead a healthy lifestyle for the rest of your life, and thats a great road to go. Keep up the good work man!
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That's average joe talk!!
Lol jus playin man. You just want to lead a healthy lifestyle for the rest of your life, and thats a great road to go. Keep up the good work man!
Ok keep doing what you're doing and getting mediocre results. You make it seem like its so hard to pack some sandwiches and get up an hour earlier to get an extra meal in, yet you have so many questions about how to progress on your lifts. Its most likely not your training
Tblock1
New member
agreed. Just put a few extra meals in and you will get MORE enjoyment out of your training when your lifts go up and your size
Andalite
Elite Bodybuilder
Firstly, Glad is very right in what he just said about goal specificity.
However, I want to address something you said, Josh:
I am VERY similar to you. I also want to lift for my whole life. But that has nothing to do with not having specific goals. I am not a Powerlifter and I am not a Bodybuilder and I am not a Strongman. I train to get strong. Thats it.
I once met a World War 2 vet when I was training in Dallas. The guy must've been past 85. He was Deadlifting 365. I want to be THAT guy. He was literally a fountain of knowledge and almost EVERYTHING he said is stuff Eric has literally ingrained into my thick skull.
Yes, Josh, we do train because it is fun for us but it must have a purpose. And if there is no goal then you don't need to sweat about a lack of progress. Hell, you don't need a plan and you don't anything. All you need is to be able to go in, lift, feel happy, leave. Why do you need to do anything you do now - write it down, etc?
You've got one foot in the door and the other out.
What I do - the way I train is specifically for longevity. Remember a while ago I got into an argument with Glad in my journal (I think) when I mentioned I want gradual progress? This is why. If you have steady, gradual progress then you're fine. IF you try to rush things and do them quickly you always have a set back. Take yourself for example: you did some stuff, then you did 5/3/1 and now you're weaker. You can blame it on a number of reasons but hey...you're weaker than you were before.
I didn't do Deadlifts for 7 weeks. Infact, I trained minimally for 7 weeks. Did I lose an OUNCE of strength? Nope. I came back and I pulled 455 for doubles and triples. Why? Not because I am genetically gifted (hey...you guys know what I look like: am I really gifted genetically?).
So what I am trying to say (simply) is that you have one foot in the door and the other out. You want to record your training, you want some sort of a plan, you keep hopping between routines, you want to eat better, etc..BUT you don't want any goals because you want to lift for longer. See the problem? You CAN lift all your life, get stronger every year and be better off and not label yourself a powerlifter, strongman or bodybuilder.
However, I want to address something you said, Josh:
I am VERY similar to you. I also want to lift for my whole life. But that has nothing to do with not having specific goals. I am not a Powerlifter and I am not a Bodybuilder and I am not a Strongman. I train to get strong. Thats it.
I once met a World War 2 vet when I was training in Dallas. The guy must've been past 85. He was Deadlifting 365. I want to be THAT guy. He was literally a fountain of knowledge and almost EVERYTHING he said is stuff Eric has literally ingrained into my thick skull.
Yes, Josh, we do train because it is fun for us but it must have a purpose. And if there is no goal then you don't need to sweat about a lack of progress. Hell, you don't need a plan and you don't anything. All you need is to be able to go in, lift, feel happy, leave. Why do you need to do anything you do now - write it down, etc?
You've got one foot in the door and the other out.
What I do - the way I train is specifically for longevity. Remember a while ago I got into an argument with Glad in my journal (I think) when I mentioned I want gradual progress? This is why. If you have steady, gradual progress then you're fine. IF you try to rush things and do them quickly you always have a set back. Take yourself for example: you did some stuff, then you did 5/3/1 and now you're weaker. You can blame it on a number of reasons but hey...you're weaker than you were before.
I didn't do Deadlifts for 7 weeks. Infact, I trained minimally for 7 weeks. Did I lose an OUNCE of strength? Nope. I came back and I pulled 455 for doubles and triples. Why? Not because I am genetically gifted (hey...you guys know what I look like: am I really gifted genetically?).
So what I am trying to say (simply) is that you have one foot in the door and the other out. You want to record your training, you want some sort of a plan, you keep hopping between routines, you want to eat better, etc..BUT you don't want any goals because you want to lift for longer. See the problem? You CAN lift all your life, get stronger every year and be better off and not label yourself a powerlifter, strongman or bodybuilder.
JDid23
New member
Gladiator- you probably hit that on the dot... point well taken
I want to start off by saying i was kinda in a rush while making that other post which is why it wasn't as long as i wanted it to be.. I think i am overplaying how hard it is to make solid gains- even though my gains have been consistent, they haven't been as efficient as they could have. Gladiator is 100% right- a few more small meals/snacks per day would make a world of difference.
Also, in response to the part about the 5/3/1... that didn't make me weaker. I got my 1RMs after the 5/3/1, and they all exceeded my expectations (military met them) besides bench press. I'm pretty happy where i stand- almost done with my 9th month of working out (not counting the few months where i worked out but didnt know shit before soccer) and i have DLd 365 and squatted 275 ATG @ around 165 pounds. If you were to see my frame, you wouldn't believe these #s. That's just one of the reasons i want to put on some size.
What made me weaker was going on my 9 day trip to france and then not being able to lift for another 5-6 days because of the 7 hour training sessions for my job. During my trip, my diet was whatever food we were given at meals + alcohol at night. The food at our hotel was extremely expensive and not even that good, so we only ate at meals we were given. When I got back from vacation, i would bring lunch to the training sessions but i never brought enough. I think that 5-6 day period without focusing on my diet AT ALL + not lifting brought me to shit. Having said that, I feel ok where i am right now and am getting back to normal. I've also put on some size in the past 2ish weeks which is a nice surprise. Thanks for your time andalite and everyone else who has been posting. Anyways........................................
Lower Body
Back Squat
205x5
205x5
205x5
1 legged RDL
45 lb DB x 8 (per leg)
45 lb DB x 8
30 lb DBs x 15- 2 legs
Leg Press
270x12
270x12
90x12--- per leg
Hamstring Curls
Don't remember..... i think i did 50x10 and 60x10 with 1 leg and ended with 90x10 with 2.
Calves-- Kept it light today. did a few sets with 90 standing and 45 seated
Static Holds with trap bar
185x40ish seconds
Comments: and after that a lot of stretching at home. Squats felt much stronger than last workout where i did 185x2x8. Going to move up in a 3x5 fashion for back squats and hopefully gain strength back pretty quickly. My grip killed me with the 1 legged RDLs.. going to move the weight down and concentrate on the stretch. Leg Press wasn't that easy, but it wasn't too hard.. i did find out my left quad is weaker than my right quad so hopefully unilateral training will help even this out. Hamstring curls are the first machine i don't despise, and static holds were instead of farmers walks since the gym was outrageously crowded.
I want to start off by saying i was kinda in a rush while making that other post which is why it wasn't as long as i wanted it to be.. I think i am overplaying how hard it is to make solid gains- even though my gains have been consistent, they haven't been as efficient as they could have. Gladiator is 100% right- a few more small meals/snacks per day would make a world of difference.
Also, in response to the part about the 5/3/1... that didn't make me weaker. I got my 1RMs after the 5/3/1, and they all exceeded my expectations (military met them) besides bench press. I'm pretty happy where i stand- almost done with my 9th month of working out (not counting the few months where i worked out but didnt know shit before soccer) and i have DLd 365 and squatted 275 ATG @ around 165 pounds. If you were to see my frame, you wouldn't believe these #s. That's just one of the reasons i want to put on some size.
What made me weaker was going on my 9 day trip to france and then not being able to lift for another 5-6 days because of the 7 hour training sessions for my job. During my trip, my diet was whatever food we were given at meals + alcohol at night. The food at our hotel was extremely expensive and not even that good, so we only ate at meals we were given. When I got back from vacation, i would bring lunch to the training sessions but i never brought enough. I think that 5-6 day period without focusing on my diet AT ALL + not lifting brought me to shit. Having said that, I feel ok where i am right now and am getting back to normal. I've also put on some size in the past 2ish weeks which is a nice surprise. Thanks for your time andalite and everyone else who has been posting. Anyways........................................
Lower Body
Back Squat
205x5
205x5
205x5
1 legged RDL
45 lb DB x 8 (per leg)
45 lb DB x 8
30 lb DBs x 15- 2 legs
Leg Press
270x12
270x12
90x12--- per leg
Hamstring Curls
Don't remember..... i think i did 50x10 and 60x10 with 1 leg and ended with 90x10 with 2.
Calves-- Kept it light today. did a few sets with 90 standing and 45 seated
Static Holds with trap bar
185x40ish seconds
Comments: and after that a lot of stretching at home. Squats felt much stronger than last workout where i did 185x2x8. Going to move up in a 3x5 fashion for back squats and hopefully gain strength back pretty quickly. My grip killed me with the 1 legged RDLs.. going to move the weight down and concentrate on the stretch. Leg Press wasn't that easy, but it wasn't too hard.. i did find out my left quad is weaker than my right quad so hopefully unilateral training will help even this out. Hamstring curls are the first machine i don't despise, and static holds were instead of farmers walks since the gym was outrageously crowded.
JDid23
New member
Upper Body
DB Military-- felt decent. going to play around with the way i do them and keep them pretty light, hopefully find one that i feel zero pain doing.
30 lb DBs x 10
30 lb DBs x 10
Chinups
5
5
5
5
Flat DB Bench
50 lb DBs x 8- PR 3x8, not too hard though
50 lb DBs x 8
50 lb DBs x 8
40 lb DB x 8 (per arm)
BB Rows (chest supported rows were taken)
95x12 pronated
95x12 suppinated
110x10- cable rows
CGBP
120x8- PR 3x8
120x8
120x8
DB Shrugs
55 lb DBs x 15
55 lb DBs x 15
Face Pulls
110x10, then did some drop sets
Alt Hammer Curls
25 lb DBs x 10 (per arm)
20 lb DBs x 10
Tricep Pushdowns
110x12
110x11
22x10 (1 armed)
Comments: not bad i guess.. not much to say here besides my upper body stretching seems to be helping, flat DB bench is getting easier, CGBP is going up consistently, don't like DB shrugs as much as BB shrugs (how's the trap bar for them?), and face pulls feel good for my traps.
DB Military-- felt decent. going to play around with the way i do them and keep them pretty light, hopefully find one that i feel zero pain doing.
30 lb DBs x 10
30 lb DBs x 10
Chinups
5
5
5
5
Flat DB Bench
50 lb DBs x 8- PR 3x8, not too hard though
50 lb DBs x 8
50 lb DBs x 8
40 lb DB x 8 (per arm)
BB Rows (chest supported rows were taken)
95x12 pronated
95x12 suppinated
110x10- cable rows
CGBP
120x8- PR 3x8
120x8
120x8
DB Shrugs
55 lb DBs x 15
55 lb DBs x 15
Face Pulls
110x10, then did some drop sets
Alt Hammer Curls
25 lb DBs x 10 (per arm)
20 lb DBs x 10
Tricep Pushdowns
110x12
110x11
22x10 (1 armed)
Comments: not bad i guess.. not much to say here besides my upper body stretching seems to be helping, flat DB bench is getting easier, CGBP is going up consistently, don't like DB shrugs as much as BB shrugs (how's the trap bar for them?), and face pulls feel good for my traps.
I think the trap bar is reallyt good, bb shrugs are sort of uncomfortable for me, then again I don't do shrugs. Heavy deadlifts, bb rows and pullups are the only back work I do.
I said the exercises you enjoy will be the exercises you put the most effort into, which is true for alot of people but not all. I also said I enjoy doing leg presses so right now I am doing them.
Im not the one that likes to say that Im not going to do x method or whatever because Im lifting to enjoy myself
Hey jdid how are you liking the higher reps?
Andalite
Elite Bodybuilder
This is pretty much me too.
Deadlifts (though I count it as a total PC exercise - not just a back exercise)
Weighted Pull-ups / BodyWeight Pull-ups
Dumbbell Rows
Cable Rows / Inverted Rows
