working on a new routine

[Tblock1]

LOL @ all you guys saying you have to back squat or yuor a pussy or you have to back squat in any routine unless you have a medical condidtion.

yeah I used to say that stuff because it sounds cool but then I realised...

what would be the point in forcing someone to do any exercise, back squats for example, that they didnt like? They would just put sub max effort into them because they hated them, they wouldnt enjoy their workouts as much and so they wouldnt be as dedicated and even though they may be missing out on something by not doing them there are other exercises that cater for it.

yeah if someone refuses to do an exercise then they cant moan when they dont get the benefits from it, and yeah some exercises are better than others and should be done by most people. but unless your training for a competition with that exercise in then you dont have to do it and you can always find ways around not doing them.

eg doing pendlay rows and weighted hypers instead of deadlifts
eg doing front squats and deadlifts and no back squats
eg doing flat dumbell presses for chest and not flat barbell presses
eg doing cable rows for back instead of bent over bb rows or one arm db rows <--- I do this

Do you plan on powerlifting ever man? If so you better squat.....that was the point I am trying to make. I thought you wanted to powerlift????

Personally I still think the deadlift is better than the squat, but I keep squats in the routine as an ACCESSORY lift to my deadlift

 

[ExtraMile]

Do you plan on powerlifting ever man? If so you better squat.....that was the point I am trying to make. I thought you wanted to powerlift????

Personally I still think the deadlift is better than the squat, but I keep squats in the routine as an ACCESSORY lift to my deadlift

I wasnt talking about myself in that post. I know I have to squat and I enjoy squatting some of the time. Like I said the only time when you have to do an exercise is when training for a competition with that event in it. I never said I disliked squats myself...

And actually Im looking at a powerlifting competition in October to do...

 

[JDid23]

Shit. I am dying to lift today but my dad won't let me take his car since my calves have serious DOMS from 3 days ago and i can barely walk. Hopefully I will be able to lift tomorrow. Had to sit through 7 hours of bullshit for some training i have to do for my job, and have 2 more fuckin days of it tomorrow and saturday. can't wait!

 

[miked8c]

Shit. I am dying to lift today but my dad won't let me take his car since my calves have serious DOMS from 3 days ago and i can barely walk. Hopefully I will be able to lift tomorrow. Had to sit through 7 hours of bullshit for some training i have to do for my job, and have 2 more fuckin days of it tomorrow and saturday. can't wait!

Haha how does that even happen?

What do you do for work?

 

[JDid23]

Haha how does that even happen?

What do you do for work?

I did nelson's calf routine after not workin my calves seriously for about 2ish months.

This is gonna sound ridiculous, but i sell knives. I had to go through a rigorous 4 hour interview with college kids. 2 go to NYU, one goes to Harvard (he obv got the job), one goes to Middlebury, and there are a bunch more who go to other good schools. Some are also incoming college students like myself. The pay is much better than any job i've ever seen though, so a ton of kids want it, but only select people get it. The pay is $17.25 per session (about 45 min-1 hour) if you sell nothing, or commission if that's more. Start out at 10% commission, the avg sale is $250.00, but it can be more and hopefully i'll make some $1,000 sales. Eventually when you start to hit certain #s, your commission goes up until you hit 50%. You can also go to up to nearly 10 sessions a day if you really want, so the $$ adds up, especially if you're a good salesman.

Wow that was long: here's my workout


Lower Body


Deadlift- not going to post warmups anymore since i know i warmup adequately.
315x3
295x3, maybe 4.

Front Squat
95x8
95x8
95x8

Pullthroughs
72.5 KG x 12
75.5 KG x 12

Bulgarian Split Squats
15 lb DBs in hand x 10 (per leg)- PR 3x10
15 lb DBs in hand x 10
15 lb DBs in hand x 10

Seated Calves
45 lbs x 10 fast reps- kept it light, wanted to get some blood flow since i still have serious DOMS

Russian Twists
10 lb weight x 50- PR 3x50 (lol)
10 lb weight x 50
10 lb weight x 50

Leg Raises
10
10

Complexes-- Back Squat, Calf Raises, Lunges, RDL, Front Squat
x 6
x 8

Ran 3/10 of a mile in 2:28 i think.. going to start running and increase my distance very gradually since i want to gain some more stamina.


Comments: I got my ass kicked today. Had job training from 9:00 AM until 6:00 PM so all i had was 2 PB&Honey sandwiches and a protein bar with some water during that 9 hour duration.. and that was probably the best meal of anyone lol. was really in the zone today too- so pumped to workout, was MUCH later so there weren't as many people. Deads were freaking hard- i guess my CNS isn't used to lifting so much weight, so i'll have to become acclimated again. Complexes were tough, and I am definitely gonna start running. I hate not being in shape as far as conditioning goes. Also going to hit up complexes when i have extra time.


Here's a big one.. I am going to train my deadlift, bench press, and probably front squat for strength. Everything else will be done in hypertrophy rep range obviously targeting hypertrophy. I downloaded an ebook from email from GUStrength about strength vs hypertrophy, so i'll give that a read one of these days and possibly make what i feel could be some necessary and beneficial alterations to my routine.

 

[miked8c]

Wow man thats gotta be one of the best jobs i've heard a kid your age get, seriously bro great stuff. You must have some connections to get a job like that over Ivy League kids.

 

[Andalite]

That is an awesome job, Josh! Congrats on getting it!

 

[JDid23]

Wow man thats gotta be one of the best jobs i've heard a kid your age get, seriously bro great stuff. You must have some connections to get a job like that over Ivy League kids.

thanks man. I don't really have any connections and don't like to tout my own horn,but i interview extremely well Also, the kid from Harvard got the job and so did 1/2 kids from NYU.

 

[ExtraMile]

man you keep talking about wanting to train for hypertrophy but in all honesty I think your going about it the wrong way.

Prioritising F squat, deads and bench is fine.

But what you have been doing so far which is gaining strength on all your lifts has increased both your strength and muscle mass, right? and you have said before your diet hasnt been very good. So if you know diet is the problem, and by looking at the strength gains you have made Im pretty sure training isnt the problem then why are you thinking of changing both? What do you think would happen if you trained in the same mannor and ate a big diet? Dont you think you would continue to make strength gains like you have done, or even better strength gains but make even better mass gains along the way?

I think you should get on 3000-4000kcal every day and put 50lbs on your F squat, Bench and deadlift while bringing up your choosen assistance lifts proportionately (including calf raises). The routine you choose to do that is your choice...

Your diet doesnt have to be hard to follow either. Keep starting the day with eggs and wholemeal bread. Post workout can be the shake meal. You could have your oat meal pre workout and follow it with cottage cheese. Have some red meat like steak 3 times a week or so.

Hit 4 meals a day and fill in the gaps with 0.5-1 gallon of milk every day. Im dieting and theres nothing more that I want right now than to drink a gallon of cold chocolate milk today

edit: I finally have more karma than jdid!

 

[Andalite]

^^^ Very valid points. I tried explaining this earlier but you guys were all over high rep deads and doing more reps for this and what not ass backwards logic. If diet has been the issue then fix the diet. Changing both (like you said) is silly because now you have a new variable to deal with with zero experience to guide you!