winny and bf?

[jessi78]

hypothetical question here ...

is it possible for a woman, with say 17%bf to drop a noticable amout of fat on a 10 week winny <inj> cycle? lets say the starting dose is 5mg for 2 weeks, possibly ramping up to 7.5 ...maybe even 10mg. diet is clean, cardio and weight training 6 days a week. im really kinda asking if the only noticible difference will be muscle growth? thanks

jessi

 

[Sassy69]

First, depends on what you call a "noticeable difference". Like 5% bf? You can do that in 10 weeks on a clean diet & training. As far as "cutting" or "bulking", you can do either on winny, but it will depend on your diet, not that fact that you are now adding in AS.

What are your goals & expectations? Perhaps post your diet (e.g. one day's' meal plan) and your training. In 10 weeks, you should definitely see some results on winny, assuming intense training & clean diet. Also give consideration to the possible sides to winny -- possible water retention, voice change, zits, etc. Winny isn't always predictable, though your dosage sounds low, you shouldn't see lots of sides - but again, depends on how you react to it. The biggest point I want to make is that just because you are taking winny doesn't mean its the magic pill (or shot, as the case may be) - it still depends on where you are now, your diet & training and how consistent you are with them. As I said, you can easily achieve a 5% bf loss on a tight diet & training w/ no cardio in about 10 weeks too.

 

[Temple]

Winny is not a fat burner if that is what you are asking. What it will do for you is dry you out a bit, harden you up and preserve lean mass while restricting calories and doing more cardio.

 

[jessi78]

i know its not a fat burner, thats what eca is for. so, yeah i guess i am look for a good 4, maybe 5% loss on the bodyfat. ive been taking eca on and off for years, clen ive tryed a bunch of times also.

over the past 3-4 years ive lost a good 80-90lbs. 3 years ago i started training and doing cardio. im now 150lbs with 17%bf. for the life of me i cannot shake my last 15 lbs. heres a day of eating

bfast- 1 1/2c bran w/1c skim or 1% milk
lunch- either alot of tuna, turkey or chicken on a salad. 1/2c 2% cott. cheese
snack- protein shake, bar or some other form of protein <cold cuts>
dinner- tuna, buffalo, seafood or chicken <approx 7 oz> w/green veggies or a salad
snack- something light .. either sugarfree icepops or 1/2c FF yogurt with 2tb wheat germ.

i do 45-60 mins of cardio 5-6 days a week. weight train 5. 2 of those days i train with bev francis, so there pretty heavy days.

im hoping to burn a considerable amout of fat thru muscle growth. thats my expectation. but dont misunderstand me. fat burning in NOT my only expectation.

jessi

 

[Sassy69]

I think the thing holding you back is your diet. Especially if you haven't changed it in a while. When you really need to kick up some metabolic changes, its time to look first at your diet. My suggestion is to move to 5 meals / day, something like 3-4 oz (cooked) of protein at each meal, do some complex carbs like oatmeal or sweet potato earlier in the day, finish out the day w/ vegies. Add in some flax oil for good fats. Toss the bran & milk -- dairy isnt' the best cutting food. Sugar. You might also toss the cottage cheese, cold cuts, protein bar -- go for real sources of protein.

Generally -- your body processes protein most optimally every 2-3 hours -- so provide it just enough and then refeed. Carb rotation also worked wonders for me. You might do a search on "spatts' cutting diet" and "spatts" as the author on the women's board.

 

[jessi78]

thanks for the info. i mean i dont eat like that everyday. i change it around alot, so i dont seize my metabolism. i make changes in everything weekly .. diet, weights, cardio. i always try to keep my body out of a scheldule. i do incorporate things like oatmeal and an occasional sweet potato too. i also "pick" throughout the day on lean protein sources. im just really frustrated

 

[wilson6]

Hypothetical answer,

So let's say the winny helps (and I don't think that is the answer here), in 10 weeks you have the look you desire, then what?

W6

 

[jessi78]

then i try my damnest to keep that look

 

[wilson6]

"then i try my damnest to keep that look"

Try you will, but the reality is you won't without the winny. If you want change that is long-term and lasting, work on your diet and skip the winny.

W6

 

[jessi78]

i mean dont get me wrong here .. im not looking for that miracle pill that will suck the fat out of my ass. ive done alot of experimenting with other choices <besides AS> and i have had close to zero results. this is just something i have thought about and researched for about a year and a half now. and i do know winny is not the first choice on anyones list in this case, but its what is available to me and not 600-700 dollars for 12 weeks of. i just dont want to come off on here and to you all as "im too fat and i have some winny" kinda girls. thanks so far for everyones info.

btw-sassy, spatts' diet looks exceptional and def. worth a try at it thanks

jessi