what should i expect from this cycle?

[takniteasy]

Just a couple of comments. I read over the thread and I did not see where anyone said anything about your fiance becoming a BB. If that idea was PM'd to you then I apologize. It looks like she has had an eating disorder. In order for her to realize any gains from her cycle she needs to EAT ALOT. And eat clean. IMO, with her height and current weight, no matter how many cycles she does, she will not put on the kind of mass to be even remotely considered a BB. Meaning if she has only put on 10 lbs with three previous cycles, she is not going to put on enough mass with another cycle.

Please get your fiance on the board so she can learn from other women like her. She really needs to be here herself, taking care of herself. And learning how to achieve the physique goals she desires to but in a healthy way.

BTW, she will get no definition if there is nothing there to define.

 

[perfectspecimen]

i will try to get her to sign up.

but who ever said she wants to be a bb. she doesnt.
she is only about 130 but she complains that its mostly fat bc she has no muscle. she trains hard but just cant get rid of the fat and put on muscle.

 

[Temple]

i will try to get her to sign up.

but who ever said she wants to be a bb. she doesnt.
she is only about 130 but she complains that its mostly fat bc she has no muscle. she trains hard but just cant get rid of the fat and put on muscle.

She won't until her diet is in order - by diet I mean food intake not restriction. It doesn't matter how many drugs she throws at the problem it will do little until the foundation is in place. What she is doing is a fairly agressive BB cycle. I have read back thru your previous posts and there seems to be a real focus on the drugs - there is no magic bullet hun.

Has she started this cycle yet and if so where is she at in it??

 

[perfectspecimen]

cycle is supposed to start end of may.

she has trained clean for years before starting aas. she didnt have much progress before aas. her body transformed on her first cycle, she got very hard and lost a lot of fat.

her main concern is that she doesnt want to gain a lot of weight or get bigger in the waist. if you see her now you would know there is a lot of room to put on muscle if she lost fat.
that is what she is trying to do.

so what are your suggestions about her diet.
she trains 6 days a week also.

she also chose primo bc it is effective on a restricted calorie diet.

 

[takniteasy]

maybe she is having difficulty because of the restricted calories. Perhaps bump up the protein a bit and lower the carbs. She may be able to put on lean mass and minimize the fat gains. However, if she continues to restrict her calories, she could wind up wasting the cycle.

I thought clen and cytomel were to lean out? She seems pretty lean already. I am not well educated on those two drugs as I have never used them but from what I have read they are used after a bulking cycle. Could someone clarify this for me and others who dont know?

Also, all of the cardio that she is doing might be catabolic. Can she cut down the cardio a bit to preserve what lean mass she puts on? As for losing fat to make room for muscle, maybe someone could enlighten me on how that is done? It seems to me that your fiance does not have a whole lot of fat left to lose. 12% is well below average and to want to maintain 8% would probably jepordize her health and ability to have children. I have a good friend who maintained 10% or less for at least 6 years (she was a fitness competitor) and is now trying to concieve. She has gone back up to approximately 15% BF and stopped competing well over a year ago, however she has not begun her menses again. She may not ever begin again. Oh the price we pay for vanity

I hope she can get on this board before she starts her cycle. She may learn she doesnt need or want it in the end. Please try to get her here so the experienced ladies can help her out.

 

[perfectspecimen]

so you think she should cut down on the cardio?

and eat more protein and limit carbs right?

she isnt too lean in her opinion. the stomach and bum are her trouble areas. she cant get rid of the fat there. the rest of her body is good.

would yohimburn help with the trouble areas?

 

[Temple]

My advice to her would be this:
forget the above cycle - too much risk of irreversible sides
Increase her protein to at least 1.5g protein per # of bodyweight
Cycle her carbs
Reduce the amount of cardio that she is doing
Topical Yohimburn on problem areas
If she inisits on AAS get a good quality anavar (anything other than IP) 10mg/d -
Train HEAVY - each bodypart 1x week

 

[perfectspecimen]

anavar isnt very pleasing. she did 10mg spa anavar for 8 weeks.
she was bloated all over, like how i get on dbol.
she will never use anavar again.
she loved winstrol though.

thanks

 

[takniteasy]

what Temple said. As for trouble spots, Yohimburn can help but it aint no miracle.