what should i expect from this cycle?

[perfectspecimen]

my fiance is doing her 4th cycle. she is 5'8" 125lbs 12%bf athletic build, size 0

she is doing
week 1-3: primobolan oral 50mg/ed, proviron 25mg/ed
week 4-8: primobolan oral 50mg/ed, winstrol 10mg/ed
week 9-12: winstrol 15mg/ed, proviron 25mg/ed

week 4-14: clenbuterol 80-120mcg/ed 2 w on 2 w off
week 7-12: cytomel 25 up to 75 and slowly down to 25

she has used all of these drugs alone before

she does cardio everyday for 30 min in the am
and trains 5 days a week in the pm

her goals are to get toned/solid with definition.
to be about 135 with 8%bf, size 2-4

what should her diet consist of?

thanks

 

[tripleV]

i dunno.....cant really say what u will get, everyone is different......so

but u ask what her diet should consist of? man that should be thought out before this cycle

i cant really comment on the cycle (not experienced with stacked cycles) except thats alot of shit and proviron? not too sure about that....

i guess i could say she better eat and eat enough god damn protein.....

 

[Temple]

PS - are ya listening to anything that we have said to you????
Anyone who is at a place where the need this kind of a cycle should be on this board giving the advice not asking us what to eat. The reason that she has not got the results that she wanted from her previous cycles has NOTHING to do with the drug - it has to do with diet and training and adding more drugs to the mix isn't going to make any difference. What does she/you think she should be eating???

 

[perfectspecimen]

i never said she didnt get anything from previous cycles.
she did

she thinks her diet should be 40 protein 40 carbs and 20 fat.

does that look ok

 

[MS]

So she's hoping to gain 10+ lbs of muscle while losing 4%bf? If she's made good gains off of previous cycles and she's NOW only 125lbs at 5'8", I gotta ask was she anorexic when she started training and AAS?? What kind of cycles and gains has she got in the past and on what kind of diet. We kinda need to know where she's started from and how she's got to where she is, diet-wise and otherwise, in order to give you specific diet advice for this cycle.

 

[perfectspecimen]

she was 115 before with about 12%bf.
she didnt have any muscle tone or definition.

she has a lot more muscle and strength now.

 

[new@gettinbig]

that weight is scary!!!! She is way to tall to weigh that much...tell her to get off the fuckin treadmill and quit doing cardio....she doesnt need any...just train heavy and eat like a MOFO....at least 1-1.5 grams of protein per lb....6-7 meals a day...some good complex carbs....she needs to put on some meat...make her cycles worth while...at her size etc...i would not be putting her on primo and winny....i would actually have her come off and build a good solid base first......she is way to skinny!!!

 

[perfectspecimen]

she doesnt want to be a bb. she wants to tone up and get definition, she had virtually no muscle tone before she started her first cycle.

 

[BronzedGoddess]

We understand that she does not want to be a bodybuilder but she is very thin and she CAN NOT build any muscle just by taking a pill. She has to eat enough calories to GROW and cardio is only going to make her have to eat even more calories. You say she doesn't want to be a bodybuilder, then why do you have this girl taking BB drugs? 3 cycles and only a 10 pound weight gain. She's obviously not eating right so she cant keep her gains. Maybe she needs to see a doc for hyperthyroidism (sp?) because things just are not adding up. You need to write down EVERYTHING she eats and then you can evaluate the situation. She may not even need drugs........just FOOD! I hope I didn't come off as bitchy.

 

[Sassy69]

she had virtually no muscle tone before she started her first cycle

Eat & Lift!

The best anabolic: meat!

Does she want to compete? 8% is a brutal bf to maintain year round. Frankly her goals are close to my target for competition day - I'm 5'7" - thought I have a larger frame I imagine. Off season (Never been on the "skinny side"). Is this a competition goal or a maintenance goal?

If she is targeting a competition then she might want to schedule it with enough time to run a bulking cycle to get more size and then a cutting cycle. If she's not targeting a competition, then I wouldn't go after an aggressive cycle and then expect to maintain 8% indefinitely.

Its my bet that if she wants to compete in a non tested show, she's gonna have to have more mass than she is shooting for. I pulled off 133 lbs at 8% in a natural show and I wasnt' what I would call 'big'. Even lean as shit, the muscle is gonna weigh more. With her height she can carry more size & still be proportional.

Just my opinion. But in BB, its not the cycles you run, but the diet & training that you do.