What is the opinion on this board about

[Robert Jan]

isolating portions of the pec major in training?

there was like a total of 40 pages of scientific debate and flame wars about this on another site....

both sides seem to have good arguments, some prominent people behind them, and so called proof....

so can you, or can you not change the SHAPE of the pec major by training in any specific way? so not its size, or its definition by losing bodyfat, but its shape. im not talking about training the serratius (spell check) or the minor to make it look different either...

can you or not?

 

[MrMuscle]

we have had out share of debates..and the opinions vary.

 

[Robert Jan]

lol this shit needs to be proven in some way. im tired of those debates really.

 

[MrMuscle]

yeah i agree. i think what matters is what you feel in the gym. if you feel that some exercise hits a different part better than another exercise, great, use that. and those that dont feel it, ok, use that.

 

[Robert Jan]

I think everybody feels their lower pec more when declining than when inclining, in fact im quite sure. however that doesn`t mean you can change its shape. different movements can be used to optimally have the muscle grow imo. but not change the shape.

 

[SSAlexSS]

isolating portions of the pec major in training?

there was like a total of 40 pages of scientific debate and flame wars about this on another site....

both sides seem to have good arguments, some prominent people behind them, and so called proof....

so can you, or can you not change the SHAPE of the pec major by training in any specific way? so not its size, or its definition by losing bodyfat, but its shape. im not talking about training the serratius (spell check) or the minor to make it look different either...

can you or not?

Shape of pecs. Slightly changeable.
(If you do incline bench only, your lower pecs will not be good)


I think that doing many exercises to stimulate "different" parts of the chest would make your chest bigger than just doing few exercises.

 

[bignate73]

there was like a total of 40 pages of scientific debate and flame wars about this on another site....

both sides seem to have good arguments, some prominent people behind them, and so called proof....

id be interested to read the scientific debate and who these prominent people are. could you p.m. me the link?

i'd like to read some of the scientific arguments vs. some of the experienced based replies that you will get over here.

i believe you are referring to isolating certain portions (inner/outer etc) instead of upper mid or lower. correct?

 

[Robert Jan]

its been long since i read these but these are threads in which it is debated:

http://www.wannabebigforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=4730

http://www.wannabebigforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=4894

http://www.wannabebigforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=4864

http://www.wannabebigforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=3338

http://www.wannabebigforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=1608

http://www.wannabebigforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=4329

http://www.wannabebigforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=4227

prominent peeps i was talking about is not the peeps on this board i just meant that there are many "experts" on both sides of the argument in general.

 

[Robert Jan]

bump for bignate

 

[The Shadow]

Can you change genetics - no.

Can you change the "shape"(not meaning origins and insertions) - most definitely.

Without a doubt.