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Tren,Test,HGH,Peptides & Diet/Cardio Help!!!

If your diet is on and your doing more than enough cardio then have you considered maybe theres a hypothyroid thing going on? Again, I dunno if you have gotten recent bloods done.
Almost all of your symptoms can be attributed to hypothyroid.

The problem here is that with most doctors if your number is in their butt fucked "range" then they wont help you. If this is the case then you need to find a doc or endo that will treat the symptoms not the range.
If you could get your bloodwork paperwork from the last two years or so (provided you get it done) you can track whats happened to your thyroid.
That might not be your problem but my money is on that.

EDIT: Every symptom you listed for the last 8 mos is EXACTLY what my wife was going through. Word for word. Our doc wouldnt treat cause she was "in range" so she told her fuck off and found a new one. Finally her shit is 90%$ back to normal and improving.


So this is not something I want to tackle myself...i have a regular doc.here andbthe endo.ive never seen because hes pricey.
 
You really did 1500cals a.day???? How the fuckndidnyou not fall over from exhaustion? No training? No I havent had bloods. No insurance...so I just get sick at the thought of paying $250+ for a blood panel...then I would need an endo whoch I have in mind but he wants $700 cash...i know my whole shit.is fucked.up. And yes the day you guys let me have it i was in tears and I feel like even more of a doucher because wjat I usually donisnt working anymore.

I was out of training with rotator tendon issues for 17 mos. I was tired of being a fat fuck. So yes I starved myself and did an assload of cardio.
I did get dizzy spells too now and then. On the plus side my BP is pefection now as is my entire blood panel.


Ok...on to you.....

You gotta get a full panel done bro. doc, endo, whatever. You gotta see where everything is at. Talk to your regular doc about treating symptoms even if your thyroid is within range.
Just a thyroid panel should be pretty cheap. But if its been a long time then i strongly urge you to get a full work up to make sure there are no other issues happening.
Also i seriously hope you have a home BP monitor and have been keeping an eye on that.
If you dont have one then shame on you for using shit like tren and not watching your BP and get your ass to the drug store today and get one!!!!
Self medicating for thyroid is not something you want to get into yourself. Plus you dont know if its T3 or T4 thats the problem ect....

Just for an FYI let me give you an example of what you might be looking at..... range is usually something like 0.4-4.8. my wife was at like 2.8 and the bitch would do nothing. her hair was falling out in the shower like a shedding dog, real moody, emotional, low sex drive, achey alot allover, could not get up in the morning, exhausted all day, hands would go numb, sleep was shitty she would diet and do cardio and actually gain weight....and more that im forgetting.
Her levels are now around .9-1.0 and she feels great. It takes a few months cause you have to let the dose level out and re check bloods and adjust and then re check ect....til it stabilizes.

Certainly there might be other things going on but this sounds like a classic case.
BTW how old are you bro?
 
hi I'm new to this forum have been around other forums though... i read all 6 pages of this post and a few things id like to say:

i think you need to relax a bit. it sounds as if your freaking out a little much because you've been doing cardio/dieting and your not dropping weight on the scale. last cycle i did i weighed myself everyday and it drove me crazy. i haven't weighted myself more then once a week this time and I'm quite a bit more sane i have to say. i stopped working out for about 9 months after being on test/tren and stopping mid cycle b/c of depression, mood swings, not having energy, lack of wanting to do anything at all really. i attribute most if not all of that to the tren. will not be touching that sht again, probably ever. i know you said you dropped the tren, i really think that'll help out your mood and lethargy a lot once it clears your system completely.

anyway, back to the weighing yourself thing which is the biggest thing i want to comment on. i started a cycle and am on currently test tren and t3/eca (minus the tren now). obv trying to get down in BF and shred up a bit. quit the tren, feel 1000x better without it, good fkn riddance. but my point is, i started this cycle at 220 pounds, don't know exact BF, but prob around 15/16%. its been 5 1/2 weeks now. the scale says i weigh 214 pounds. 6 pounds less then i started. fk the scale. i have got comment after comment from ppl that see me and see me back in shape and not a fata** anymore. i look and am pretty damn sure that I've lost about 20ish pounds. I've been getting stares, got hit on by 2 girls the other night (heard them talking about me and "my arms" before they came up to me) so, not trying to sound cocky, but dude. you haven't given yourself enough time to see weight drop. if your dieting and doing cardio, the results will come. no fckg way they won't, if you stick to your sht.

you don't have to be abs perfect with diet. it is the MOST important thing about any of this, i know that, but your stressing yourself out and i read your posts and you sound like me. and i crashed and burned. from waaay too much stress and whatnot. just eat healthy. if you fk up, it sucks, but get back on it the next day. don't worry about the scale, i guarantee you in a month or 2 you WILL notice a huge difference esp since you've been at a low BF before. its so much easier to get back there IMO once you've been there.

i know this is probably pretty long of a post to read for just a little advice, but i just took my EC soo i tend to get a little wired. but hope I can help a little. ive been right where u are now bro and gotten myself out. well.. almost anyway. still working to get to 6%, but somehow, haven't cheated ONCE yet, and goddam* does it make a difference. confidence and weight wise. so ill be there soon...
 
hi I'm new to this forum have been around other forums though... i read all 6 pages of this post and a few things id like to say:

i think you need to relax a bit. it sounds as if your freaking out a little much because you've been doing cardio/dieting and your not dropping weight on the scale. last cycle i did i weighed myself everyday and it drove me crazy. i haven't weighted myself more then once a week this time and I'm quite a bit more sane i have to say. i stopped working out for about 9 months after being on test/tren and stopping mid cycle b/c of depression, mood swings, not having energy, lack of wanting to do anything at all really. i attribute most if not all of that to the tren. will not be touching that sht again, probably ever. i know you said you dropped the tren, i really think that'll help out your mood and lethargy a lot once it clears your system completely.

anyway, back to the weighing yourself thing which is the biggest thing i want to comment on. i started a cycle and am on currently test tren and t3/eca (minus the tren now). obv trying to get down in BF and shred up a bit. quit the tren, feel 1000x better without it, good fkn riddance. but my point is, i started this cycle at 220 pounds, don't know exact BF, but prob around 15/16%. its been 5 1/2 weeks now. the scale says i weigh 214 pounds. 6 pounds less then i started. fk the scale. i have got comment after comment from ppl that see me and see me back in shape and not a fata** anymore. i look and am pretty damn sure that I've lost about 20ish pounds. I've been getting stares, got hit on by 2 girls the other night (heard them talking about me and "my arms" before they came up to me) so, not trying to sound cocky, but dude. you haven't given yourself enough time to see weight drop. if your dieting and doing cardio, the results will come. no fckg way they won't, if you stick to your sht.

you don't have to be abs perfect with diet. it is the MOST important thing about any of this, i know that, but your stressing yourself out and i read your posts and you sound like me. and i crashed and burned. from waaay too much stress and whatnot. just eat healthy. if you fk up, it sucks, but get back on it the next day. don't worry about the scale, i guarantee you in a month or 2 you WILL notice a huge difference esp since you've been at a low BF before. its so much easier to get back there IMO once you've been there.

i know this is probably pretty long of a post to read for just a little advice, but i just took my EC soo i tend to get a little wired. but hope I can help a little. ive been right where u are now bro and gotten myself out. well.. almost anyway. still working to get to 6%, but somehow, haven't cheated ONCE yet, and goddam* does it make a difference. confidence and weight wise. so ill be there soon...

Fucking excellent post!
 
I was out of training with rotator tendon issues for 17 mos. I was tired of being a fat fuck. So yes I starved myself and did an assload of cardio.
I did get dizzy spells too now and then. On the plus side my BP is pefection now as is my entire blood panel.


Ok...on to you.....

You gotta get a full panel done bro. doc, endo, whatever. You gotta see where everything is at. Talk to your regular doc about treating symptoms even if your thyroid is within range.
Just a thyroid panel should be pretty cheap. But if its been a long time then i strongly urge you to get a full work up to make sure there are no other issues happening.
Also i seriously hope you have a home BP monitor and have been keeping an eye on that.
If you dont have one then shame on you for using shit like tren and not watching your BP and get your ass to the drug store today and get one!!!!
Self medicating for thyroid is not something you want to get into yourself. Plus you dont know if its T3 or T4 thats the problem ect....

Just for an FYI let me give you an example of what you might be looking at..... range is usually something like 0.4-4.8. my wife was at like 2.8 and the bitch would do nothing. her hair was falling out in the shower like a shedding dog, real moody, emotional, low sex drive, achey alot allover, could not get up in the morning, exhausted all day, hands would go numb, sleep was shitty she would diet and do cardio and actually gain weight....and more that im forgetting.
Her levels are now around .9-1.0 and she feels great. It takes a few months cause you have to let the dose level out and re check bloods and adjust and then re check ect....til it stabilizes.

Certainly there might be other things going on but this sounds like a classic case.
BTW how old are you bro?

Interesting....im 34
 
hi I'm new to this forum have been around other forums though... i read all 6 pages of this post and a few things id like to say:

i think you need to relax a bit. it sounds as if your freaking out a little much because you've been doing cardio/dieting and your not dropping weight on the scale. last cycle i did i weighed myself everyday and it drove me crazy. i haven't weighted myself more then once a week this time and I'm quite a bit more sane i have to say. i stopped working out for about 9 months after being on test/tren and stopping mid cycle b/c of depression, mood swings, not having energy, lack of wanting to do anything at all really. i attribute most if not all of that to the tren. will not be touching that sht again, probably ever. i know you said you dropped the tren, i really think that'll help out your mood and lethargy a lot once it clears your system completely.

anyway, back to the weighing yourself thing which is the biggest thing i want to comment on. i started a cycle and am on currently test tren and t3/eca (minus the tren now). obv trying to get down in BF and shred up a bit. quit the tren, feel 1000x better without it, good fkn riddance. but my point is, i started this cycle at 220 pounds, don't know exact BF, but prob around 15/16%. its been 5 1/2 weeks now. the scale says i weigh 214 pounds. 6 pounds less then i started. fk the scale. i have got comment after comment from ppl that see me and see me back in shape and not a fata** anymore. i look and am pretty damn sure that I've lost about 20ish pounds. I've been getting stares, got hit on by 2 girls the other night (heard them talking about me and "my arms" before they came up to me) so, not trying to sound cocky, but dude. you haven't given yourself enough time to see weight drop. if your dieting and doing cardio, the results will come. no fckg way they won't, if you stick to your sht.

you don't have to be abs perfect with diet. it is the MOST important thing about any of this, i know that, but your stressing yourself out and i read your posts and you sound like me. and i crashed and burned. from waaay too much stress and whatnot. just eat healthy. if you fk up, it sucks, but get back on it the next day. don't worry about the scale, i guarantee you in a month or 2 you WILL notice a huge difference esp since you've been at a low BF before. its so much easier to get back there IMO once you've been there.

i know this is probably pretty long of a post to read for just a little advice, but i just took my EC soo i tend to get a little wired. but hope I can help a little. ive been right where u are now bro and gotten myself out. well.. almost anyway. still working to get to 6%, but somehow, haven't cheated ONCE yet, and goddam* does it make a difference. confidence and weight wise. so ill be there soon...

Thank you.
That is a great post. Yes im a stressed motherfucker. Ask ways have been. I worry the entire time I.diet everytime....booo. Well,i do feel my body composition changed a little,and yes tren is a fuckimb cocksucker. Total love/hate...but hating the mindfuck and mild depression. Ill tell ta straight up im worried because ive NEVER gotten lean without TREN
 
Ok while were talking fat loss and body recomp I have a question regarding gyno or is.it just fat? Nothing hard but I definitely notice extreme puffiness no matter what i use. Should I try a high dose run of
letro? Prami?.adex?
 
Ok while were talking fat loss and body recomp I have a question regarding gyno or is.it just fat? Nothing hard but I definitely notice extreme puffiness no matter what i use. Should I try a high dose run of
letro? Prami?.adex?

Any pain or sensitivity?? Also try some magnesium powder and GABA powder. It is a great combo for stress.! Let the tap run hot and take a teaspoon of magnesium citrate drop in in a few ounces of hot water let it bubble up and then add some cold water and drink. Cheap to buy and Definitely helps to feel at ease. GABA I take a few grams every night before bed and I sleep like a baby whereas I sometimes can stress about stuff at night
 
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