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The difference of 15 years and 25 pounds of muscle!

chesty

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The bigger me was taken in phx, 1999 right before a contest, the other one is of me in Okinawa, 1984.

I weighed about 165 in 1984 at about 12% body fat (best guess) and 190 in 1999 night before contest at about 6% body fat.

I was 19 in the Okinawa picture and 34 in the 1999 picture.
 
Thought it would be interesting to see what difference there is from body building. This was all drug free as well.
 
Tomorrow perhaps. I will be wearing those infamous shorts at our game. :D
 
LMAO!!! Glad to see a sense of humor.

Good work btw... if that 19 year old could have seen how he grew up back then... He'd be so proud. Give yourself a pat on the back... you deserve it. Especially since you look like that, natural.
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Thank you, I want all of these newbie teeny boppers and the likes to realize that you don't need a drug to achieve a phenomenal look, just average genetics and the balls to train! I didn't use any until I had topped out my genetics and that wasn't till I was 34. I am 36 now.

Surgery to relieve a nerve in left forearm next week and then I will be better than ever. Just wait!

This ones for you Bikinimom and Mommakin too.
 
We need more of this type of posting. This will inspire those who want to train and those who are afraid to train. Believe me, I had my ups and downs, my injuries and many a time I felt like a quiter because I was not getting the same results as someone else who had better genetics. But I remained and always tried to train harder and to never quit.

And now, I seem to have one maintainence problem after the other. But, I will never quit, even if I end up spending my few remaining years in a wheel chair.
 
right on man.

I wanna see a pic when you are fully enhanced with supplements.

that should be a shocker.

keep it up
 
i dont mean to be an asshole, but it took you 15 years to build 25 lbs of muscle? actually, if you bf % are correct, you are 35 lbs of muscle heavier in the other photo.

were you taking enough protein/using advanced workout routines/working out hard enough?
 
Dude, it took me four months to put the weight on and not fat. I went from 165 to 197 in 4 months natural. I was not considering competing at that time, I just wanted my size for football.

My point is that I did what I did,and yes it takes years to develop the muscle properly. Rome was not built in a day. Yes, I had protein, and the works. When I started, I had no one to help, I learned as I went.

When someone says before and after pic's I always see this is me starting my cycle, this is me 3 months later I have to laugh. Most of the time there is not much difference. I want to see what the difference is 10-20 years later. That will prove whether or not you have what it takes to be a body builder. I want to see this is me at 18, this is me 15 years later all natural and still looking as young, and better than when they started. I want to see every 36 year old on this board post their current pic and a pic from when they were 18 and when they considered themselves in their prime.

I am not out for a math contest.

And well, yes you came across as an ass.
 
Chesty, you ever thought of joining a gym and working out.

Hee Hee Hee

Seriously, you look great man. What are you entering next?
 
chesty said:
Dude, it took me four months to put the weight on and not fat. I went from 165 to 197 in 4 months natural. I was not considering competing at that time, I just wanted my size for football.

My point is that I did what I did,and yes it takes years to develop the muscle properly. Rome was not built in a day. Yes, I had protein, and the works. When I started, I had no one to help, I learned as I went.

When someone says before and after pic's I always see this is me starting my cycle, this is me 3 months later I have to laugh. Most of the time there is not much difference. I want to see what the difference is 10-20 years later. That will prove whether or not you have what it takes to be a body builder. I want to see this is me at 18, this is me 15 years later all natural and still looking as young, and better than when they started. I want to see every 36 year old on this board post their current pic and a pic from when they were 18 and when they considered themselves in their prime.

I am not out for a math contest.

And well, yes you came across as an ass.


thats good. i know i sound like an asshole when im not trying to, i've been told that before.

its just the idea of "if you work out reallllll hard, eat right, etc. you can gain 1 1/2 lbs of muscle a year just like me". i couldn't help but comment on that. im sowwy. seeing as how you gained most of it in the first few months my comment is mute.
 
nothing like a little age....lookin killer dude....i'm the same way i was about 135 in my 20's now i'm 41 165 and about 12%bf. could definetly kick my youner ass...lol... keep up the great work!!
 
JonnyFiveIsAlive! said:
Whats nordstorms problem? :confused: :confused: :confused:



i guess i have a little subliminal animosity towards chesty for his treatment of strongchick.

but, aside from that, as i said, i sound like an asshole when im not trying to. i've been told that before
 
JonnyFiveIsAlive! said:
ahh i see. Try not to hold a gruge with strongchick if she is a chick you know she could have PMS for whaterver she did, which that I do not know of.


actually, my grudge was against people who attacked her. i believe in free speech, and the right to have highly controversial opinions in stressful times. as long as the opinions don't violate the 'clear & present danger' clause.

but this is a private board. so i guess that doesn't apply. shrug.
 
You look good ol' man.

Keep it up.

When you're 40, you'll look 27ish.

When you're 50, you'll look 35ish.

When you're 60, you'll look 44ish.

When you're 70, you'll look 57ish.

When you're 80, you'll look 63ish.

When you're 90, you'll look 71ish.

Peace.
 
Amen to that. I think the old myth of 1.5lbs of muscle a year came from the old days, when bb's would add 70 pounds in a short period of time, then lose all of it but 1 or 2 pounds for their contests. Hence their weight would only go up by 1 or 2 pounds a year.

It was the old bulk and cut thing of the past. I will say though that once you gain a certain amount, it becomes harder and harder to add quality weight without gettng fat. I have spent a good portion of my life maturing what nature gave me. Right now with my forearm out of commission I have really lost some mass. am still at 215lbs and I have been dieting, but not a real good pump in the chest and arms. After surgery though I will be back at it harder than ever.

We all have our points of view and what we feel strongly about. For now we have called a truce. We shall see where we go from there.
 
Chesty and Strongchick exchanging civil words? Even respect? Well what the hell do you know about that. There's hope for us all. :)
 
Oh my God....where you EVER SKINNY!!! hehehehehheheeeee

*Big WIDE smile*

Yes, we ARE getting better with time and effort.

I met a bunch of soccer players the other night and one of them said that they find my "look" very unnappealing. I said, "Oh? Not bad for a 34 year old mother of four. Does it offend you that my arms are bigger than yours? Or is it perhaps that I may very well be stronger than you are? It's ok with me Sugar, doesn't hurt my feelings ONE BIT!"

Then he proceeded to say that I have an "attitude" like the "muscle women" on Jenny Jones. (What a FUCKING dork.) I said, "Oh really? I have an attitude? Weren't YOU the one who TRIED to put ME DOWN? Did you hear me say - I find SKINNY MEN VERY UNAPPEALING?! No. I just gave you a friendly smile, kept my mouth shut, passed you over and proceeded to flirt with your friends....."

AHhhhhhhhhh Gotta love progress!! :)

Lookin' good Chesty, lookin' reaaaaal good.
 
I can't beleive someone said you looked unappealing.....besides that, how would anyone have the nerve to say anyone looks unappealing, unless they asked for it? For pete sakes.....
Attitude? So, their attitude is healthy, as oppose to yours?
O shit, that is too damn funny...
sorta sounds like how i fit in with my sons friends parents.....lol.....I think I scare them


bikinimom said:
Oh my God....where you EVER SKINNY!!! hehehehehheheeeee

*Big WIDE smile*

Yes, we ARE getting better with time and effort.

I met a bunch of soccer players the other night and one of them said that they find my "look" very unnappealing. I said, "Oh? Not bad for a 34 year old mother of four. Does it offend you that my arms are bigger than yours? Or is it perhaps that I may very well be stronger than you are? It's ok with me Sugar, doesn't hurt my feelings ONE BIT!"

Then he proceeded to say that I have an "attitude" like the "muscle women" on Jenny Jones. (What a FUCKING dork.) I said, "Oh really? I have an attitude? Weren't YOU the one who TRIED to put ME DOWN? Did you hear me say - I find SKINNY MEN VERY UNAPPEALING?! No. I just gave you a friendly smile, kept my mouth shut, passed you over and proceeded to flirt with your friends....."

AHhhhhhhhhh Gotta love progress!! :)

Lookin' good Chesty, lookin' reaaaaal good.
 
Mommakin....I find YOU appealing. As a matter of fact I wanna bury my face in those teets. :D

And for the strongchick thing....she seems like the type that posts those cracked up views to laugh at the rise she gets out of everybody. Just ignore the "pot stirring"
 
MommaKin said:
I can't beleive someone said you looked unappealing.....besides that, how would anyone have the nerve to say anyone looks unappealing, unless they asked for it? For pete sakes.....
Attitude? So, their attitude is healthy, as oppose to yours?
O shit, that is too damn funny...
sorta sounds like how i fit in with my sons friends parents.....lol.....I think I scare them



My point EXACTLY! My momma always said, "If you don't have anything nice to say......"

I am grown and secure. I DO NOT LIFT TO ATTRACT MEN. It does not hurt my feelings if someone does not find me attractive. I am not ALL THAT and I certainly know that I do NOT float EVERY ONE'S boat! hehehehheheheeee

I find that when a "man" feels threatened by a strong worman, whether her strength be emotional, physical, mental or all any/all of the above - the FIRST WORDS out of his mouth are either: "BITCH" or "you look like a man".

HHEHEHAHHEHahoahahahaha!

Don't these assholes realize that they are only giving away the dreaded "my penis is substandard and I wouldn't know what to do with it if COULD get hard anyway" secret?!

I would NEVER in a million years say something negative to or about someone unless they ASKED for it in a HYUGE way... and even then I have often used a tremendous amount of restraint.

Momma - I agree w/ya about scaring the kids' friends heheheheee. My girls appreciate my sense of humor, but the other day I think I really scared of few of my kindergarten-aged daughter's classmates when I told them that if they didn't settle down I would be forced to shoot them with a tranquilizer gun!

HAHHEHEHeaohaohehahahehhehehehahahhahahaaa

Poor kids! Will probably have nightmares for years to come!!!

:FRlol: :FRlol: :FRlol: :FRlol:
 
nordstrom said:


i guess i have a little subliminal animosity towards chesty for his treatment of strongchick.


awww. That's so sweet. I've never had genuine affection for anyone on an internet forum before. :)

Deep down, I guess, I still believe, and (nordstrom proves it )Americans won't let another American be persecuted for a 'belief'.

Rather than discussing such controversial issues, sometimes it is just better to smile and enjoy the things we have in common...like our commitment to the iron!
 
Not to piss on your parade, no doubt you look great. But im young and i cant wait 10 years to get like that. I train my ASS off 5x's a week. I respect the way you did that. I wish i could, but i cant wait.
 
I'm not eve close to gay and I'd do ya!!! LOL!!
 
Nice work, man. Hard to believe you're only 190 in the later pic. Looking great.

-Warik
 
Look good man.

Anyone who critisized your progress has their head up their ass.

Look at the pictures the guy went from a soft 165 to a ripped up and drug free 190.
Uhh excuse me but thats a dieted down 190 as well so he probably lost a bit of muscle dieting down drug free.

Chesty unlike alot of guys here who jump on the juicemoose express way to soon can juice right now and even if he stops training because of the base he built up to age 34 will still be 190-200lbs and solid unlike alot of guys here who 10 years from now will be fat and out of shape because they dont know how to train drug free and will give up.
 
outstanding YOUNG man. I am over 30 also and natural also for right now I believe I am coming close to my genetic max, but anyway it is good to see others in our age group who believe like I do. I have seen better muscle gains and feel better in the last 2 or three years than every before so we just keep getting better with age.

You look great Chesty keep it up
 
Thanks to all, I hope to be back harder than ever after my forearm sugery. I will try to post some pics of right after surgery and then some as I progress back into reality of muscledom. Not being able to train correctly for a year has been a major bitch! Not too mention how it affects your mental status and your desire to eat correctly. It really sucks.

Wodin, you and me babe? What would your wife say?:D
 
O yes...now we're talking......the thought of MMF thingy does not turn me on, but, in this instance, come to Momma!
Wait, look....it's heaven :angel:



chesty said:

Wodin, you and me babe? What would your wife say?:D
 
chesty said:
Thanks to all, I hope to be back harder than ever after my forearm sugery. I will try to post some pics of right after surgery and then some as I progress back into reality of muscledom. Not being able to train correctly for a year has been a major bitch! Not too mention how it affects your mental status and your desire to eat correctly. It really sucks.

Wodin, you and me babe? What would your wife say?:D

First off do exactley what your PT on rehab tells you to do and don't overdo it either. Most of the PTs I've had to deal with know there shit inside and out.

As to the wifey she is like me, she would want video distribution rights! Its all about the porn...
 
Yeah, My last pt worked with me for a couple of weeks more so to keep me reigned in, then he turned me loose and said there was nothing he couldn't teach me that I already know, and just advised me on what to look for to determine if I was overdoing it. Smart man.

As for distribution rights, she can have them, I just want mommakin in the middle and we can make us a cream filled sandwhich.

Wonder what siskel and ebert would say, oops, one of em dead, oh well, we'll still rate high.
 
Chesty, you look great. Im curious about the pic of when you were younger, how old were you in that pic, and how long had you been lifting in that pic?
 
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