Dude, it took me four months to put the weight on and not fat. I went from 165 to 197 in 4 months natural. I was not considering competing at that time, I just wanted my size for football.
My point is that I did what I did,and yes it takes years to develop the muscle properly. Rome was not built in a day. Yes, I had protein, and the works. When I started, I had no one to help, I learned as I went.
When someone says before and after pic's I always see this is me starting my cycle, this is me 3 months later I have to laugh. Most of the time there is not much difference. I want to see what the difference is 10-20 years later. That will prove whether or not you have what it takes to be a body builder. I want to see this is me at 18, this is me 15 years later all natural and still looking as young, and better than when they started. I want to see every 36 year old on this board post their current pic and a pic from when they were 18 and when they considered themselves in their prime.
I am not out for a math contest.
And well, yes you came across as an ass.