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The "damn it" moment

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coyotekid84

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I know for most of you this isn't a big deal, but today was chest day. I finish the flat bench and I just hit a personal best of 195 woot woot.
As I move to the dumb bells, I notice this chubby guy. As I look over to him, this seemingly unathletic guy is lugging 140lbs dumb bells. I'm thinking no way, this guy is benching benching 140lbs free weights....And I think to myself damn it
took the wind right outta my sail!
 
I hate when old people are like super strong. I'm 18, I get done with my bench, I'm feeling all good because I just did well, then right next to me some old guy just out did my weights by like 20 pounds. Damn It! I thought old people were supposed to be weak, this dude is throwing up like 240! He repped his 5 times just like me. Then he looked at me... I could feel this gleam in his eye like he was proud that he had beaten a young guy... one day old man, one day....
 
Old muscle that has been used for a life time is strong muscle. I have learned this in my life. The olrder a get the stronger I get. The more grip strength I get. I learned a long time ago do not fuck with old guys.
 
Yeah for sure. I have seen these old black guys with hair falling out putting 4 plates on the bench press like its another day at the gym...
 
needtogetaas said:
Old muscle that has been used for a life time is strong muscle. I have learned this in my life. The olrder a get the stronger I get. The more grip strength I get. I learned a long time ago do not fuck with old guys.
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Yea, have you ever eaten an old deer or other game animal?

Tough and grisly.

Just like us old guys.

B-
 
Hellawulf said:
I hate when old people are like super strong. I'm 18, I get done with my bench, I'm feeling all good because I just did well, then right next to me some old guy just out did my weights by like 20 pounds. Damn It! I thought old people were supposed to be weak, this dude is throwing up like 240! He repped his 5 times just like me. Then he looked at me... I could feel this gleam in his eye like he was proud that he had beaten a young guy... one day old man, one day....
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and there is nothing more satisfying than for one of us "old guys" lifts more, and looks better than you younger guys.. good to know it gets to you..

Now, often someone that is smaller or not as strong should look to that person for advice, or motivation if nothing else, most guys are not as arrogant as you may think.. but please please please do not interrupt my workout, just wait til we are in between sets... when we give advice, take it, do it, or don't but don't tell us we are wrong.. we've been here a little while and only recommend what has worked for us..

thanks

"old guy"
 
coyotekid84 said:
I know for most of you this isn't a big deal, but today was chest day. I finish the flat bench and I just hit a personal best of 195 woot woot.
As I move to the dumb bells, I notice this chubby guy. As I look over to him, this seemingly unathletic guy is lugging 140lbs dumb bells. I'm thinking no way, this guy is benching benching 140lbs free weights....And I think to myself damn it
took the wind right outta my sail!
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You hit a new PB, be proud of that! Who cares what another guy is doing???? Focus on the positive of the day...

Besides it's all about the mirror, not the number on the dumbbell/bar
 
EZ_E said:
You hit a new PB, be proud of that! Who cares what another guy is doing???? Focus on the positive of the day...

Besides it's all about the mirror, not the number on the dumbbell/bar
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there is a lot of truth in that... body building and strength training are 2 different things..

and remember to check the ego at the door.. that's one that Myself and many have to remember all the time..
 
Eric1987 said:
Yeah for sure. I have seen these old black guys with hair falling out putting 4 plates on the bench press like its another day at the gym...
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Black guys are typically genetic superiors. I train at at gym that is about 60/40 black folks to whiteys. I would say 80% of the black guys are jacked/ripped/strong especially considering how shitty they train. Lotsa curls and presses. Very little back or leg work, but these guys have no shortage of muscle all over. Most of the white boys in my gym are chumps.
 
SouthernLord said:
Black guys are typically genetic superiors. I train at at gym that is about 60/40 black folks to whiteys. I would say 80% of the black guys are jacked/ripped/strong especially considering how shitty they train. Lotsa curls and presses. Very little back or leg work, but these guys have no shortage of muscle all over. Most of the white boys in my gym are chumps.
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I don't believe in that at all... I played football for years, our team was dominately white and we completely destroyed teams that were dominately black. I think there is a different mind set though, black people tend to be raised with a more physical physiology, whereas whites tend to have a more emotional physiology. So as a population whole, this would explain why the average IQ of whites is statsitically significantly higher than those of blacks, and why blacks dominate the porportion of the NFL players. That is why the atheletes of the white school can make a dominate team, and why the the intelligent kids from a predominately black school can still compete on debate teams, as well. I believe that nature makes you who you are and nurture makes you who you become. In this case I think the difference can be explained by nurture and not nature.

SpyWizard said:
and there is nothing more satisfying than for one of us "old guys" lifts more, and looks better than you younger guys.. good to know it gets to you..

Now, often someone that is smaller or not as strong should look to that person for advice, or motivation if nothing else, most guys are not as arrogant as you may think.. but please please please do not interrupt my workout, just wait til we are in between sets... when we give advice, take it, do it, or don't but don't tell us we are wrong.. we've been here a little while and only recommend what has worked for us..

thanks

"old guy"
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Haha, no, I completely respect the "old guys" of my gym, I actually really enjoy listening to them talk about their workouts, and yah I couldn't even imagine interupting someone during their workout, who would do that? I look at it like this, "old guy"
The worst part wasn't that he was a lot bigger than me, even though there are several "old guys' in my gym that are (and I'm a fairly big guy, especially for my age), actually he was about the same size if not a little smaller and he repped out more weight than me.... but this is just a joke, a true story, but a joke all the same
 
I feel more comfortable working out with older guys, most of them know their stuff, are quite, polite and helpful. I really have a problem with teenagers and some college kids noobs, they hang out in groups pushing each other with bad form, talking loud, begging for an injury, knowing-all atitude, leaving the weights all over the floor, I really can't focus with these guys around and I really have to keep a watchful position because i would feel bad if anyone gets hurt in front of me. I have this trauma of seeing this guy breaking is teeth and upper jaw with lose plates from a dumbell doing pullovers :worried:
 
KoRiN said:
I feel more comfortable working out with older guys, most of them know their stuff, are quite, polite and helpful. I really have a problem with teenagers and some college kids noobs, they hang out in groups pushing each other with bad form, talking loud, begging for an injury, knowing-all atitude, leaving the weights all over the floor, I really can't focus with these guys around and I really have to keep a watchful position because i would feel bad if anyone gets hurt in front of me. I have this trauma of seeing this guy breaking is teeth and upper jaw with lose plates from a dumbell doing pullovers :worried:
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I like working out with older guys too... one of my favorite workout partners was two black guys about 34 and 36, they were big and strong, but they were loud as hell, they would yell at me to get the weights up, it was actually probably pretty good motivation, especially since I was still playing football. I still see them at the gym but they come in later to workout so I can't work with them anymore, also they are big enough now to pull off that one muscle group a day workout routine, whereas I'm doing the 5x5 (I can't get any of my friends to join me on this workout because they all want to do the one group a day thing too, to look like the big guys, I try to explain that my workout would get them there faster but they don't believe me, so I have to workout alone :().
 
Hellawulf said:
I like working out with older guys too... one of my favorite workout partners was two black guys about 34 and 36, they were big and strong, but they were loud as hell, they would yell at me to get the weights up, it was actually probably pretty good motivation, especially since I was still playing football. I still see them at the gym but they come in later to workout so I can't work with them anymore, also they are big enough now to pull off that one muscle group a day workout routine, whereas I'm doing the 5x5 (I can't get any of my friends to join me on this workout because they all want to do the one group a day thing too, to look like the big guys, I try to explain that my workout would get them there faster but they don't believe me, so I have to workout alone :().
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5x5 it's the type of workout I would do alone, nobody to bother me, giving opinions stuff like that.
 
KoRiN said:
5x5 it's the type of workout I would do alone, nobody to bother me, giving opinions stuff like that.
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Yah, but it would be useful for saftey reasons with such quick progression in growth of weights, also I would like someone there to tell me that my form is perfect and if not what I should do to fix it (I don't own a video camera).
 
KoRiN said:
I really have a problem with teenagers and college kid noobs
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Especially that carrot hair kid called Joe that you talk to?



& as for the damn it moment, there is this asian guy at my gym, thinning hair and he is what you would call skinny-fat lol. Other day I watched him kick up the 70's and shoulders press them like nothing! Fuck I would have never guessed! I also saw him warming up with 135 on the flat bench easy as pie too, never saw his work sets but 135 is quite a bit of weight at my gym, most iv ever seen benched there is 235. Oh and 4 wheels a side on the smith buy this jacked up BB'er who comes every so often but the majority of people bench 90-180lbs.
 
Hellawulf said:
Yah, but it would be useful for saftey reasons with such quick progression in growth of weights, also I would like someone there to tell me that my form is perfect and if not what I should do to fix it (I don't own a video camera).
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The fear of failure should sharpen your senses!

Yeah sometimes it's hard, for benching I always need a spotter just in case!
 
ExtraMile said:
Especially that carrot hair kid called Joe that you talk to?



& as for the damn it moment, there is this asian guy at my gym, thinning hair and he is what you would call skinny-fat lol. Other day I watched him kick up the 70's and shoulders press them like nothing! Fuck I would have never guessed! I also saw him warming up with 135 on the flat bench easy as pie too, never saw his work sets but 135 is quite a bit of weight at my gym, most iv ever seen benched there is 235. Oh and 4 wheels a side on the smith buy this jacked up BB'er who comes every so often but the majority of people bench 90-180lbs.
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Yeah that one just pesters me online :p
 
ExtraMile said:
Wait till I go on webcam for her :p

This is getting a bit off topic lol :FRlol:
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Well about the damn it moment there was this older guy doing leg raises hanged on the chinning bar, with no straps and touching the bar with his feet, it was awesome.
 
Strange thing is though that older guy who i said was shoulder pressin 70's like nothin went to spot me when I was benchin 170 and he had a job liftin it off the rack!
 
ExtraMile said:
Especially that carrot hair kid called Joe that you talk to?



& as for the damn it moment, there is this asian guy at my gym, thinning hair and he is what you would call skinny-fat lol. Other day I watched him kick up the 70's and shoulders press them like nothing! Fuck I would have never guessed! I also saw him warming up with 135 on the flat bench easy as pie too, never saw his work sets but 135 is quite a bit of weight at my gym, most iv ever seen benched there is 235. Oh and 4 wheels a side on the smith buy this jacked up BB'er who comes every so often but the majority of people bench 90-180lbs.
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135 isnt shit on the flat bench. 235 is the most you've seen benched? We're talking about flat bench right? I see people putting 4 plates on each side. Usually its between 200-300 that people bench in my gym though.
 
Hellawulf said:
I hate when old people are like super strong. I'm 18, I get done with my bench, I'm feeling all good because I just did well, then right next to me some old guy just out did my weights by like 20 pounds. Damn It! I thought old people were supposed to be weak, this dude is throwing up like 240! He repped his 5 times just like me. Then he looked at me... I could feel this gleam in his eye like he was proud that he had beaten a young guy... one day old man, one day....
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Old??? HAH!

305, 4 reps. Then I did 285 inclines for 5 reps. Finished with 70dbs for 8 strict flyes. Then I did shoulders and tri's.

I'm 65. One day what? Seriously ... he may have been on HRT and/or aas.
 
Hellawulf said:
I don't believe in that at all... I played football for years, our team was dominately white and we completely destroyed teams that were dominately black. I think there is a different mind set though, black people tend to be raised with a more physical physiology, whereas whites tend to have a more emotional physiology. So as a population whole, this would explain why the average IQ of whites is statsitically significantly higher than those of blacks, and why blacks dominate the porportion of the NFL players. That is why the atheletes of the white school can make a dominate team, and why the the intelligent kids from a predominately black school can still compete on debate teams, as well. I believe that nature makes you who you are and nurture makes you who you become. In this case I think the difference can be explained by nurture and not nature.
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There is something wrong with your argument...first you say its statistically proven that white persons have a higher IQ than black persons (which i seriously doubt it was proven unless you got a link to prove it). But yet you dont bring up the statistic of the majority of black people in professional sports compared to white people. And the "black people tend to be raised with a more physical physiology, whereas whites tend to have a more emotional physiology" part doesnt make much sense.

I think that the average black person is more athletic than the average white person from personnal experiences and from watching professional sports. That doesnt mean that its true in all cases.
 
Eric1987 said:
135 isnt shit on the flat bench. 235 is the most you've seen benched? We're talking about flat bench right? I see people putting 4 plates on each side. Usually its between 200-300 that people bench in my gym though.
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Yah I go to this shitty ass college gym, There are only eight 45's in the whole gym lol, one squat rack, the DB's only go up to 90's also. Its cool though I love the environment, its the same croud of people who go their mostly so we all know eachother its relatively quiet too and nobody comes and interupts your workouts telling you this is bad for the knees or whatever blah blah blah crap
 
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NBAfan#21 said:
There is something wrong with your argument...first you say its statistically proven that white persons have a higher IQ than black persons (which i seriously doubt it was proven unless you got a link to prove it). But yet you dont bring up the statistic of the majority of black people in professional sports compared to white people. And the "black people tend to be raised with a more physical physiology, whereas whites tend to have a more emotional physiology" part doesnt make much sense.

I think that the average black person is more athletic than the average white person from personnal experiences and from watching professional sports. That doesnt mean that its true in all cases.
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I didn't bring up a statistic for the majority of black people in professional sports, but I did say that they had a much higher proportion, read the post, also my arguement is on the dot. Have you ever studied psychology. African American studies touches on this subject as well. As do biology courses... As for the studies... any major textbook would do. The average black person is a little stronger and a little faster than the average white person, my arguement doesn't refute this, my arguement states that the reason doesn't lie in the actual race its self. In lamens terms, if it hasn't already been lamens enough, if a million white and black people were raised the same way, trained the same way as they got older, and always ate the same stuff there would be no statistical difference between them on average between the statistics of IQ, Bench, Squat, Mile Times, 40 times, whatever... of course this study could never be done, and so in all actuallity this is a hypothesis. But I'm not on EF to argue theory, I'm here to learn more about how to see the results I'm looking for.

This is a study's results, I don't agree with the claim that the race diferential is largely genetic based, but this shows evidence of the drastic differenc between black and white IQ scores.... http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-IQgapgenetic.htm

This one is fairly interesting... http://www.sullivan-county.com/id5/sowell.htm

"The Worldwide Pattern of IQ Scores. East Asians average higher on IQ tests than Whites, both in the U. S. and in Asia, even though IQ tests were developed for use in the Euro-American culture. Around the world, the average IQ for East Asians centers around 106; for Whites, about 100; and for Blacks about 85 in the U.S. and 70 in sub-Saharan Africa." - http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/node/7669
 
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