The Bible vs. Sex

[healother]

I would strongly encourage you to look for feedback in other forums or avenues, the majority of the people here have a negative view of the bible and/or Christians.

Remove the bible from the equasion for a moment and look at it this way. With so many STD's, some fatal, and with the problems of unwanted pregnancy, it seems like a smart move to wait doesn't it? No, that's not the "cool" thing to do. It's lame to hold out and do it when it's right.

I beleive the bible and I had premarital sex. I regret it to this day. Not because it didn't feel good, it felt great. It was amazing and I'm happy to say my GF at the time was quite happy too. I apparently knew what the heck I was doing. lol But looking back, I wish I could say that the only woman I've been with is my wife. Society has cheapened sex anymore and its' not special, it's just to "get off". Sex in marriage can be all you want it to be. Carnal, sensuous, romantic, lust filled, etc, etc.

We are so bombarded with the pressure to do it, we just do it to get it over with, not to relish it. You can of course still go to heaven if you have premarital sex, but the bond you could have with your future wife, and her with you, thats pretty special isn't it? I for one think it is, but I would bet I'm in the minority.

Don't worry i posted this on 3 other forums as well. (one of them was a Christian forum) I like the whole rounded viewpoint.

Waiting makes sense, for me more so due to the emotional attachment that can come with sex. But waiting until marriage? it just seems a bit extreme, why not just wait until you're with someone you love?

Here's the thing. what if you didnt get married? what if you died without having sex? How would that be a good deal? Are you willing to risk that, just so you can say the only women you had sex with was your wife?

So is sex really less special with your wife now because you had it with another person? I thought what made sex special was that it was with a certain person that you really like, not because it was the only person you'd been with.

 

[healother]

we pick and choose what we want to believe from the book.

No god is going to punish you for having premarital sex. That is the most absurd thing that I've ever heard.

I'm not worried about God punihsing me, I'm more worried that I might actually regret it later, and that maybe the Bible is right. Or I'm more worried that I might disappoint God and then feel guilty about it later.

Here's a good read:

http://www.luciferianliberationfront.org/sexbible.html

ill check it out later, im about to head out.

 

[samoth]

lol, ouch!

what was wrong with my post? (please no one else needs to answer, just samoth)

Posts. Plural. You answered the question for me when you said you posted this in three other forums. Please, turn off your computer, leave your house, and get the hell out into the real world and interact with real people. You will not find the answers to life in internet message forums. Unless your psych emphasis was in internet message board psychology, I suggest the real world as the optimum place to interact. Or, of course, there's always the killself option.

i had manual sex okay, yes that is the technical word for it, and that is a type of sex. but yeah, technically im still a virgin

HUH?! I never thought of the differences between manual and automatic sex. Actually, I don't know what manual or automatic sex is. Does going from one to the other involve changing your transmission?

 

[javaguru]

Wow, I'm sorry AAP, THIS is the dumbest thing I've read on EF. Youa re splitting hairs and you know it.

just sayin.

1. Which translation of the bible are you using?

2. So, you are saying God "changed his mind" with the new covenant?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq0dBFqJZc0

 

[javaguru]

Wow, I'm sorry AAP, THIS is the dumbest thing I've read on EF. Youa re splitting hairs and you know it.

just sayin.

You're the one that believes in something with zero proof....just sayin'

 

[UA_Iron]

1. Which translation of the bible are you using?

2. So, you are saying God "changed his mind" with the new covenant?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq0dBFqJZc0

Good video.

here's a good read:

http://www.luciferianliberationfront.org/stories.html#noah

 

[musclemom]

Heal, the more you read of the Bible (and I strongly advise you to actually read the silly ass book, cover to cover, as opposed to permitting someone else to regurgitate THEIR interpretation of what is held between it's covers) the more you will find hypocricy ...

The restrictions against premarital sex, as far as my recollections extend, are limited to the old Testament (personally I've always thought Paul was either a closet homo or mysogynist, haven't figured out which). Well, if you're not a Jew, the Old Testament doesn't apply to you, does it? Why do xtians get themselves twisted up with Old Testament laws and restrictions when the Messiah said "I am the way, the truth and the life?" Did he tell y'all to keep kosher? NO, he said something to the effect that sin is not what goes INTO a man's mouth, but what comes out. So if you eat ham ...

Okay, you really want to be anal (in the psychological sense) ... the 10 commandments, are God's laws, RIGHT? These are the biggies, right? ADULTERY is mentioned. Adultery is having sex OUTSIDE of your marriage, meaning you or the person you're banging, is married. Specifically, extramarital sex that willfully and maliciously interferes with marriage relations. It does NOT mean UNmarried, consentual sex.

The problem with unmarried sex existed within Hebrew society, lands and property were automatically conferred to the first born son (before DNA testing). That was a MAJOR issue then and THAT was where the value of female virginity lie (and why adultery is such an issue). It didn't have shit to do with "sin." It had to do with inheritance, seriously.

Chastity and abstinence are, historically speaking, recent issues in xtian religion.

Hell, priests used to be allowed to marry until less than 600 years ago.

Okay, this is an interesting web page about Jesus and his opinions on sex, and IMHO, the crap that came around 1400 years after his death doesn't count:

http://www.religioustolerance.org/sex_jesu.htm

Heal, the only lesson was to be a good, compassionate person ... torturing yourself about having sex or not is not good, because you're hurting yourself, which is against Christianity (you're hurting one of God's creatures, aren't you? Torturing yourself mentally ...). Either be abstinant and proud of it or engage in relations and realize that rubbing bathing suit parts with another person isn't evil.

You want to see evil, you read about the holocaust, you read about John Wayne Gayce and Jeffrey Dahmler, that's EVIL, man, THAT shit is evil. Having consentual intercourse with another person ain't evil. Silly, messy, awkward, sure, but not evil.

Evil destroys joy, life and hope.

... course, I'm a pagan ... matter of fact I'm going to an initiation ceremony tomorrow , so what do I know?

 

[Jimsbbc]

What is the point of waiting until you are 29 yrs old to finally have sex, get married, have sex for two years, and then get divorced. You are now back at square one.

Abstaining from sex does not make you any more virtous than a cronic masterbator.

If you aren't having sex, then you are masterbating, which is just as sinful. It is impossible to get aroused and masterbate without thinking illicit, sexual thoughts.

There are preists and monks all over the world masterbating on a regular basis who are just as sinful in God's eyes as porn stars because they are fornicating and defiling themselves with carnal thoughts and engaging in sexual sin.

 

[Jimsbbc]

The only way to avoid sexual sin is to neuter yourself and never touch your dick, outside of marriage. That is why the bible does not mention masterbation, because it is a necessary evil. Imagine our society without masterbation. Rape would be common place. You couldn't walk from your house to your car without getting jumped by someone.

 

[redsamurai]

heal.......is there someone out there you really care about, respect etc....????

and is there an issue about having sex with said person???