Supps for a non cycling natty??

[SirIsaacBrock]

I've been doing some reading aorund and it seems some of the test boosters here actually do work, unless its all a rep conspiracy..

I seemed to notice that lot of people here dont think you should mess with anything liek test boosters, or even things like the sarms until you're a little older because as a 25 year old Im already producing a buncha test? at least supposed to be? whats the harm in boosting it?

I currently take just whey protein, creatine mono, and multis suppd with vit c and d, fish oil, a g/c/msm joint supp and green tea extract.. gonna start taking a preworkout soon but some of these thigns got me interested

like what about GEAR? supposed to boost your protein intake

I get the idea that alot of these are for moreso when your gains slow down and you need a boost, is that to say, at a newbie stage you won't feel the boost? I mean, if im working at 100%, won't any extra supp like this boost me up to 110%, theres no harm in it right?

I've gained 30lbs since january so Im doing good.. but everyone wants an edge and I am not going to look at steroids until I put on another 20-30lbs of lean mass 'natty.' the sarms look interesting but at this point i feel like its playing with fire and i should just ignore them for a while

 

[Idobehigh]

Gear is great to add a very good amino acid and will do exactly what you said, test boosters work for a certain age as well, you never mentioned how old you were? That will play a big role.

 

[bonacris]

Best thing you can do is find the products we rave about and read some logs and reviews about them..

Test infusion
Unleashed
Forged methyl eaa
Hcgenerate

Check out all these read the reviews and logs

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[SirIsaacBrock]

Gear is great to add a very good amino acid and will do exactly what you said, test boosters work for a certain age as well, you never mentioned how old you were? That will play a big role.

I'm 25

I've read tree reviews on hcgenerate and un leashed but for the most part they seem to be from guys using them in their pct. Nothing much about standalone use

Supposing that my test and hormone production is at its lifetime high, can products like these boost them even further?

 

[Nelson Montana]

UNLEASHED, Pytoserms, BRIDGE and GEAR would make an outstanding natty, non suppressive stack.

 

[SirIsaacBrock]

UNLEASHED, Pytoserms, BRIDGE and GEAR would make an outstanding natty, non suppressive stack.

That sounds insanely expensive

I looked at HCGenerate and noticed that you take 10 pills a day at about 10$ a pill

I guess my biggest question is, when it comes to stuff liek gear and all these things, why haven;t I heard of them and why aren't larger supp companies selling such offerings?

I mean, I guess I am looking for an edge, but not spending $20 a day kind of edge for something that may be less than noticeable at my stage? dunno.

 

[liffalot]

I've been doing some reading aorund and it seems some of the test boosters here actually do work, unless its all a rep conspiracy..

I seemed to notice that lot of people here dont think you should mess with anything liek test boosters, or even things like the sarms until you're a little older because as a 25 year old Im already producing a buncha test? at least supposed to be? whats the harm in boosting it?

I currently take just whey protein, creatine mono, and multis suppd with vit c and d, fish oil, a g/c/msm joint supp and green tea extract.. gonna start taking a preworkout soon but some of these thigns got me interested

like what about GEAR? supposed to boost your protein intake

I get the idea that alot of these are for moreso when your gains slow down and you need a boost, is that to say, at a newbie stage you won't feel the boost? I mean, if im working at 100%, won't any extra supp like this boost me up to 110%, theres no harm in it right?

I've gained 30lbs since january so Im doing good.. but everyone wants an edge and I am not going to look at steroids until I put on another 20-30lbs of lean mass 'natty.' the sarms look interesting but at this point i feel like its playing with fire and i should just ignore them for a while

25 years old is plenty to be starting Sarms or AAS if you think you're ready for it. That's generally the age where people will tell you that your youthful test level drop a bit and even out.

I always recommend that people look into SARMS before AAS just because they are relatively cheap, easy, and still produce great results. A good stepping stone if you will.

I get all of my Sarms from the board sponsor Sarmssearch here - you wont find anything better out there

 

[liffalot]

That sounds insanely expensive

I looked at HCGenerate and noticed that you take 10 pills a day at about 10$ a pill

I guess my biggest question is, when it comes to stuff liek gear and all these things, why haven;t I heard of them and why aren't larger supp companies selling such offerings?

I mean, I guess I am looking for an edge, but not spending $20 a day kind of edge for something that may be less than noticeable at my stage? dunno.

Like everyone else said too, those are great supps for a completely natty cycle.

The reasons are different for each of them. GEAR for example is very expensive to make because it is incredibly highly concentrated and difficult to extract Super Plasma Serum brought to you at an affordable price. Big companies don't waste their time with anything that costs them X amount of dollars to make, especially when they cant make a huge profit off of it (and lets be honest nobody is going to buy GEAR for 100 bucks a bottle).

With things like phytoserms too, they are very specialized and your average everyday creatine junkie either doesn't need to mess with them or doesn't want to mess with them. They are all for next level athletes and people who aspire to be so.

 

[SirIsaacBrock]

Sarms seem really very interesting, but I've only been lifting since the start of the year and I don't think I am at any point ready for such things, or really for a few years, though am I wrong to believe that I would likely entertain greater than average gains using such products? Anyway I'm no athlete and I don't really have any end goal in sight, its kind of hard to say when I'd feel ready, but I do feel like I have a lot of natural growth in me. But then I feel like if I load up on thigns like unleashed and gear im not being entirely 'natural' anyway, and I should just go for it.

Sarms are also interesting in the fact that I can have a guaranteed readily available high quality source; when it comes to anything like steroids, I have no idea where to even start, and they seem way too intense for me with all the pct, having to do bloods and so on and so forth. I'm meticulous about the thigns I do, and when I do things I do them right and proper like a lot of people I've noticed on here, but the cash factor is astounding. I have no idea what true aas' cost, I know theyre expensive, but I also know that some of you are spending quite a large amount on your pcts and so on and so forth.

Anyway yeah Id like to stay "natural" for a good while, but the whole question of just what is natural comes into mind when I start thinking about all these supps...

 

[Idobehigh]

Well good for you for actually saying your not ready for roids yet and I respect you for that I just wish a lot of others were like you lol as far where to start on aas just keep looking on here and you will eventually start understanding more about, cycle depending on what they are range from 400-to upwards of 1000$ defiantly learn as much as u can

 

[SirIsaacBrock]

Well good for you for actually saying your not ready for roids yet and I respect you for that I just wish a lot of others were like you lol as far where to start on aas just keep looking on here and you will eventually start understanding more about, cycle depending on what they are range from 400-to upwards of 1000$ defiantly learn as much as u can

word, like I said I am new to lifting in general so I know Ive got alot of natural growth ahead of me still, I gained 30lbs in 4~ months so even slowing down Im hoping I can still achieve 1lb a week for the next while.. and thats just it too, I have a LOT of reading and research and things to udnerstand before I ever think about undertaking such a thing. Even with the sarms which seem simple I'd still want to make sure im not suppressing anything and that everything inside of me is a-ok. I figured they would cost about that much, and it seems the pcts themselves cost about that much. Its alot of money to spend to say the least, but we all have our addictons

 

[Nelson Montana]

That sounds insanely expensive

I looked at HCGenerate and noticed that you take 10 pills a day at about 10$ a pill

I guess my biggest question is, when it comes to stuff liek gear and all these things, why haven;t I heard of them and why aren't larger supp companies selling such offerings?

I mean, I guess I am looking for an edge, but not spending $20 a day kind of edge for something that may be less than noticeable at my stage? dunno.

Well, you certainly can get something less expensive that doesn't work nearly as well. Your choice.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Let it also be known....SARMS is NOT natty. It is a drug and it is suppressive.

 

[SirIsaacBrock]

Let it also be known....SARMS is NOT natty. It is a drug and it is suppressive.

I never believed it to be.

As far as the other statement of mine you bolded, I simply meant that taking all those products at once would be quite costly, not that I thought they were outrageously priced nor that I would look into cheaper alternatives or anything of the sort.

I guess when it comes to these things I'd like to hear some first person testimony from other people who werent using them with a slew of other items at the same time.

 

[dylangemelli]

If you just started lifting then you are being very smart in not running cycles... You have plenty of good options out there...

Test infusion, gear, need2slin, creatine nitrate, nu blend protein are great options for you... Forged methyl eaa is also excellent...

Just so you know... Hcgenerate is 5 a day, not 10...

Check out mrsupps and ntbm

 

[SirIsaacBrock]

If you just started lifting then you are being very smart in not running cycles... You have plenty of good options out there...

Test infusion, gear, need2slin, creatine nitrate, nu blend protein are great options for you... Forged methyl eaa is also excellent...

Just so you know... Hcgenerate is 5 a day, not 10...

Check out mrsupps and ntbm

Ah you know what, I totally misread the page.

Says 5 caps is a serving, and then said 30 servings, but I read that to be 30 caps, aka 6 servings per $65 bottle

My bad to the max..

I was using a walmart creatine.. thought it would cut it but I stopped using it and didnt notice any weight change or change in the gym, just picked up some creapure, cheap and I know it works..

Do you have any experience with the aforementioned products on their own? Im finding with looking at a lot of the different types of test boosters out there, they all claim to be better than the others, for various reasons and list why the others 'fail', but they all seem to do the same for their respective ingredients its a little confusing. There are so many to choose from on ntbm for instance.. hcgenerate, hcgenerate es, unleashed, methl eaa, d-spark and so on

 

[dylangemelli]

Ah you know what, I totally misread the page.

Says 5 caps is a serving, and then said 30 servings, but I read that to be 30 caps, aka 6 servings per $65 bottle

My bad to the max..

I was using a walmart creatine.. thought it would cut it but I stopped using it and didnt notice any weight change or change in the gym, just picked up some creapure, cheap and I know it works..

Do you have any experience with the aforementioned products on their own? Im finding with looking at a lot of the different types of test boosters out there, they all claim to be better than the others, for various reasons and list why the others 'fail', but they all seem to do the same for their respective ingredients its a little confusing. There are so many to choose from on ntbm for instance.. hcgenerate, hcgenerate es, unleashed, methl eaa, d-spark and so on

I have used them all and I love them all... Test infusion had me feeling the best in terms of feeling on any of the test boosters listed... unleashed has always done me well...

 

[liffalot]

Sarms seem really very interesting, but I've only been lifting since the start of the year and I don't think I am at any point ready for such things, or really for a few years, though am I wrong to believe that I would likely entertain greater than average gains using such products? Anyway I'm no athlete and I don't really have any end goal in sight, its kind of hard to say when I'd feel ready, but I do feel like I have a lot of natural growth in me. But then I feel like if I load up on thigns like unleashed and gear im not being entirely 'natural' anyway, and I should just go for it.

Sarms are also interesting in the fact that I can have a guaranteed readily available high quality source; when it comes to anything like steroids, I have no idea where to even start, and they seem way too intense for me with all the pct, having to do bloods and so on and so forth. I'm meticulous about the thigns I do, and when I do things I do them right and proper like a lot of people I've noticed on here, but the cash factor is astounding. I have no idea what true aas' cost, I know theyre expensive, but I also know that some of you are spending quite a large amount on your pcts and so on and so forth.

Anyway yeah Id like to stay "natural" for a good while, but the whole question of just what is natural comes into mind when I start thinking about all these supps...

Yes you are absolutely right, and good on ya for realizing that you aren't ready. You need a good base before using any sorts of these types of products, so stick to natty supps, hard work and food for now.

 

[liffalot]

Let it also be known....SARMS is NOT natty. It is a drug and it is suppressive.

Indeed it is. The reason I mentioned it is because there are plenty of people (even here unfortunately) calling themselves "natural athletes" that use SARMs and other hormonals

 

[bonacris]

Indeed it is. The reason I mentioned it is because there are plenty of people (even here unfortunately) calling themselves "natural athletes" that use SARMs and other hormonals

Even Ronnie Coleman claims to be natural

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