Stop Recommending Testosterone To Newbies!

[halfcenturian]

Nelson is either bored, taken too much UNLEASHED,

or is just in the mood to start a food fight.

Why he decides to pull this stuff out of thin air baffles me.

...Back to football.

 

[Tatyana]

I agree that controversy on the internet is an important thing and it helps people express their opinions. However, if someone wants to share why another cycle would be a better one than test, I'll expect a detailed explanation.

Why on earth would someone recommend anavar over test as a first cycle?

Actually, I think they recommend primo more than they recommend test.

In all honesty, if I was a lad doing my first cycle, I would choose primo.

 

[UA_Iron]

Why does it matter what your first cycle is? You'll move onto bigger and better things and be more suppressed than ever - your "first cycle" will have little if any bearing on what you're doing down the road. Just keep HCG around and you'll be fine.

Dont pixy dust yourself with hormones your first cycle, make it worth while (provided you can get away with it in your work or life). Just be prepared for the aftermath of whatever you do and you'll be fine.

Shit, I can say controversial stuff too. What kind of science background does Nelson Montana have? I can come up with theories without much basis as easily as anyone else.

Edit: If one believes your first cycle does hold some kind of magical window for gains then one would think you would go balls to the wall. I am not advocating this belief.

 

[the_alcatraz]

Actually, I think they recommend primo more than they recommend test.

In all honesty, if I was a lad doing my first cycle, I would choose primo.

I like test so much, I believe that any cycle without test is not complete, unless you're doing an orals only cycle.

My first cycle was dbol, only because I was scared shitless to inject. That was a mistake.

Why would you inject primo for your first cycle over test? What is your justification for this Tat?

 

[the_alcatraz]

Let me add that test is a lot more versatile than Primo, a much better bulking agent than Primo, especially for a newbie would has been working out for a long time but wants to start his first cycle with something to give him a growth edge...

Did I mention that Primo is a shitload of money...and not everyone can afford it?

 

[UA_Iron]

Let me add that test is a lot more versatile than Primo, a much better bulking agent than Primo, especially for a newbie would has been working out for a long time but wants to start his first cycle with something to give him a growth edge...

Did I mention that Primo is a shitload of money...and not everyone can afford it?

Not to mention test is much more predictable when it comes to sides. You dont have to take exotic drugs to combat side effects. It works through mechanisms that we understand.

Primo - ton of fakes out there too.

 

[the_alcatraz]

Not to mention test is much more predictable when it comes to sides. You dont have to take exotic drugs to combat side effects. It works through mechanisms that we understand.

Primo - ton of fakes out there too.

very good input bro

Primo is the most fakes steroid i've seen out there...not much diff. between it and masteron to my understanding either...

 

[dabuffguy]

i agree with u, not with that its the most suppressive just because i dont know if it is, but with the fact that everyone needs to stop recommending test.

everyone seems to say u cant take this without test. well i took dbol without test and it was the shit, i basically consider it my first cycle because var didnt do shit. now im on test and winny, but i would much rather go back to taking 25mg of dbol.

The reason var didn't do shit is becaue it was either underdosed or bunk. Contrary to popular belief, var is very strong shit.

Ask layinback. He gets US manufactured legit pharm grade var, and he thinks 20mg pharm grade is stronegr than 60mg of UG stuff.

Dbol is a good first cycle if you ask me.




Test as a first cycle is also good.

Telling people to not take test as a first is strictly preference of Nelson. Yeah, test is suppressive. Guess what? We know, and doing proper PCT is where it's at.

Test will give you the best gains.

Primo is expensive as shit, and coming by good primo is tough, especially for a noob who hasn't been in the game long enough to know better. Even with all the research you can possibly do, inexperience is a set back.

Test is strong, abundant, cheap, low dose gives almost zero sides, and it's easy to control sides because your body already knows how to deal with fluctuating testosterone levels. That's what happens in puberty.

Test is best. Suppressive, not suppressive,or whatnot. Learn to love it.

 

[Tatyana]

very good input bro

Primo is the most fakes steroid i've seen out there...not much diff. between it and masteron to my understanding either...

Primo as there is very little bloat with it from what I have heard. What you gain is what you gain, there will not be the 10 lbs of water weight loss at the end of the cycle.

I think that the gear that you get also depends on the country you are in.

I don't think it is as much of an issue in the UK and Europe as we don't have the same steroid laws or issues with the media.

I could be wrong about this, as I have never tried to buy steroids.

I may ask a few of the lads in the gym.

 

[aquatic_glories]

Aren't you the one who says test production will decrease no matter what after 2-3 cycles??
so????