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Stop Recommending Testosterone To Newbies!

pretty sure i lost some bf on the dbol. very mad i didnt hit my abs as hard as i should on it, because the last week i was on i hit my abs hard, and they started to come through. no anti-e, took nothing on cycle besides dbol. 20mg of nolva for 5 weeks for pct.

no excessive bloat or itchy nips? sounds like you must be one of the lucky ones not very susceptible to oestrogenic side effects.
 
no excessive bloat or itchy nips? sounds like you must be one of the lucky ones not very susceptible to oestrogenic side effects.

well i already have gyno from puberty which sucks because it wont go away but didnt get any from dbol. i took 25mg dbol a day, so maybe it was to low of a dose to get any estrogenic sides. I had a little bloat i couldnt really see it, but one of my friends told me i looked bloated, but he always tells me i look bloated.
 
well i already have gyno from puberty which sucks because it wont go away. i took 25mg dbol a day, so maybe it was to low of a dose to get any estrogenic sides. I had a little bloat i couldnt really see it, but one of my friends told me i looked bloated, but he always tells me i look bloated.

lol. tell him he looks like a noodlekeg.
 
This topic is lol.....
 
I disagree Nelson.

I don't think test only cycles are a bad first cycle. I think they are and should be therecommended first cycle. If you are ready for ass, then you should start with test IMO.
 
Nelson, have you any studies that claim that steroid x shuts down HPTA more than steroid y?

Alternatively some studies that show raising natural test levels is easier if using deca than test?

Thanks


C'mon lads, you all must know that there are very few studies about steroids in healthy men, let alone on specific things such as this.

I find this asking for studies quite odd.

75% of the time if someone posts a study, then it is criticised saying it is on rats or the doses were wrong and then people say experience counts for more.

Well, that is what we have here, experience.

To be honest, I think it is great that Nelson is challenging the bodybuilding word of mouth myths that are propagated on the internet.


BTW, Dave Palumbo also recommends primo and or var for a first cycle, no test.
 
c'mon lads, you all must know that there are very few studies about steroids in healthy men, let alone on specific things such as this.

I find this asking for studies quite odd.

75% of the time if someone posts a study, then it is criticised saying it is on rats or the doses were wrong and then people say experience counts for more.

Well, that is what we have here, experience.

To be honest, i think it is great that nelson is challenging the bodybuilding word of mouth myths that are propagated on the internet.


Btw, dave palumbo also recommends primo and or var for a first cycle, no test.

+1
 
C'mon lads, you all must know that there are very few studies about steroids in healthy men, let alone on specific things such as this.

I find this asking for studies quite odd.

75% of the time if someone posts a study, then it is criticised saying it is on rats or the doses were wrong and then people say experience counts for more.

Well, that is what we have here, experience.

To be honest, I think it is great that Nelson is challenging the bodybuilding word of mouth myths that are propagated on the internet.


BTW, Dave Palumbo also recommends primo and or var for a first cycle, no test.


I agree that controversy on the internet is an important thing and it helps people express their opinions. However, if someone wants to share why another cycle would be a better one than test, I'll expect a detailed explanation.

Why on earth would someone recommend anavar over test as a first cycle?
 
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