i really would love an explanation on why its suck a big deal because I've seen many that did it and they weren't even very fit when the started , they just joined the gym for a few months got offered some juice and did it fine, higher than what i was planning ,much higher , like I'm talking above 400mgs test, not sure about deca , above to amps parabolan ,dbol, primo,winny, huh 4ius ALL together thats why i thought this would be very very safe compared to what I've seen them take