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So I'm thinking about starting a CKD, i need some meal ideas.

Shit dude that sucks. If i were you this is what i would do:

Sunday - Friday: 158 grams protein, 151 grams fat, 0 grams carb (or less than 30)

Saturday: 600 grams carb, 158 grams protein, 0 grams fat (or less than 30)


So because of your work schedule don't try to start on friday afternoon. Instead just start on saturday after you wake up and end just before you go to bed saturday night.

Try not to take in any fat whatsoever on saturday or at least keep it less than 30 grams total. I accomplish this with cerial and skim milk.

thanks bro...ill do that.
 
You guys are fucking amazing. This info is fantastic. I will be starting out the CKD I decided, this sunday. I'm doin it. Onebreath, how do you feel about your creatine absorption w/o the glucose? Still okay?

And with the TKD, the main diff is you have the carbs befor intense lifting, and no other time, correct? Whereas on strict CKD you would only consume carbs on your refeed days...

Also, where are the pics from this alleged photo shoot?!?

;)
 
You guys are fucking amazing. This info is fantastic. I will be starting out the CKD I decided, this sunday. I'm doin it. Onebreath, how do you feel about your creatine absorption w/o the glucose? Still okay?

And with the TKD, the main diff is you have the carbs befor intense lifting, and no other time, correct? Whereas on strict CKD you would only consume carbs on your refeed days...

Also, where are the pics from this alleged photo shoot?!?

;)

Correct on the differences. Good question on the creatine. I never thought about it to be honest. I certainly didn't notice any difference.

I take 5mg post workout but also eat a good bit of salmon. I average around 24 to 36 ounces per week.

The photoshoot is temporarily postponed. More due to monetary reasons but i'll admit i'm relieved. I feel like i need another 4 solid weeks to lean out. I'm just getting warmed up with this carb manipulation stuff. I'll take some more progress pics sometime mid next week. That will make it about 5 weeks from the previous ones i posted.
 
Cool deal bro. Your last pics look great. Your calves are like rocks. I am envious. Any special work you do? or are you one of those lucky bastards who has the genetics for ridiculous calves?
 
hi hi, checkin in.

the wheels sorta fell off this week, as we just signed papers on a house and are moving...its hard to stick to any sort of program when moving. moving SUCKS. i have stuck to the diet diligently, but have not been to the gym as much as id like. however, i went above and beyond last week in the gym, so i feel slightly less guilty. ive only been once so far, for upper body, today we couldnt get in there, but we are doing some serious legs tomorrow. i have stayed below 1600 cals per day, under 20 carbs, etc.

i actually carbed up for 48 hours last time around (did i already tell you guys that? my brain is fried this week. did i mention moving blows ass?) so i think thats making me feel weird mentally...scott promises that ive never looked better, and that my body has transformed, even tho i havent seen a huge drop on the scale (sounds similar to what you might have experienced, ironwings?) i probably wont do that again, and this next time do a 24 hour one. 2 whole days was just too much for me, i felt like shit.

i really like this program, but im still figuring out if i can deal with the bloating/water retention every week. even tho i know its just water, its really frustrating. hopefully that will stabalize. im going to keep doing this for a few more weeks. i also think, to be honest, i could be a weeeee bit stricter on the carb ups. i havent totally bunged it up, but hey, if im gonna do something, im gonna do it right.

i like the way my lifts have been going, when i do the ab slings, i can see the beginnings of what i like to call "the little squares" (ie, im really starting to see some ab definition) so thats awesome.

you guys may have gathered, im VERY hard on myself and am definately my own worst critic. this week has been rough, work is crazy busy, we just bought a house so were broke and have to effing move from a 3 story apartment in 80 degree heat, and i feel guilty for not going balls out on my diet/workout program this week. plus, perhaps my bodys still getting used to this new regime, and im a little unhinged.

anyhooooooooo. hows everyone else doin? :)
 
Mattie, if I could tell you one thing and one thing only, it would be DON'T EVER WEIGH YOURSELF AGAIN!!

What is this, the biggest loser?? :)

My point: we are athletes. Not morbidly obese people on the brink of cardiovascular catastrophe!

Do what you did on your ab sling, STARE AT YOUR BODY when you need to see progress! Find new striations! You'll be gaining muscle and losing fat. The only thing really necessary (in my mind) is to weigh oneself before a cutting regimine, and after, along with bodyfat measurements, then to do the math and see how many pounds of fat you shredded.


I just think people focus on the scale far too much....in my HUMBLE opinion:)
 
Cool deal bro. Your last pics look great. Your calves are like rocks. I am envious. Any special work you do? or are you one of those lucky bastards who has the genetics for ridiculous calves?

Thanks bro. I wish i had some genetics helping me out. At 6'4" it's hard as hell to make calves look big. I'm currently doing them DC style. Just one set of 12 (pick whatever extension you want) and:

1. extend all the way up on the big toe
2. Do a slow negative taking 5 seconds to reach the bottom
3. stretch at the bottom for 15 seconds (feel it burn!)
4. repeat

12 reps and you'll realize why you only need 1 set. Do it twice a week.
 
hi hi, checkin in.

the wheels sorta fell off this week, as we just signed papers on a house and are moving...its hard to stick to any sort of program when moving. moving SUCKS. i have stuck to the diet diligently, but have not been to the gym as much as id like. however, i went above and beyond last week in the gym, so i feel slightly less guilty. ive only been once so far, for upper body, today we couldnt get in there, but we are doing some serious legs tomorrow. i have stayed below 1600 cals per day, under 20 carbs, etc.

i actually carbed up for 48 hours last time around (did i already tell you guys that? my brain is fried this week. did i mention moving blows ass?) so i think thats making me feel weird mentally...scott promises that ive never looked better, and that my body has transformed, even tho i havent seen a huge drop on the scale (sounds similar to what you might have experienced, ironwings?) i probably wont do that again, and this next time do a 24 hour one. 2 whole days was just too much for me, i felt like shit.

i really like this program, but im still figuring out if i can deal with the bloating/water retention every week. even tho i know its just water, its really frustrating. hopefully that will stabalize. im going to keep doing this for a few more weeks. i also think, to be honest, i could be a weeeee bit stricter on the carb ups. i havent totally bunged it up, but hey, if im gonna do something, im gonna do it right.

i like the way my lifts have been going, when i do the ab slings, i can see the beginnings of what i like to call "the little squares" (ie, im really starting to see some ab definition) so thats awesome.

you guys may have gathered, im VERY hard on myself and am definately my own worst critic. this week has been rough, work is crazy busy, we just bought a house so were broke and have to effing move from a 3 story apartment in 80 degree heat, and i feel guilty for not going balls out on my diet/workout program this week. plus, perhaps my bodys still getting used to this new regime, and im a little unhinged.

anyhooooooooo. hows everyone else doin? :)

Hey, i'm hanging in trying to get a hang of not having carbups to look forward to :(

I do not envy you. Moving will absolutely drain you and wreck motivation. i would just accept that right now your program is not 100% because of the circumstances and focus on finishing the move and getting back to 100% then.

Also i'd say listen to your husband. He's able to look at you with perspective when you can't. Your view is being filtered through all of the negatives (scale weight hasn't gone done, i haven't been strict on my carbups, etc). He's seeing the difference while you can't. Hang in there!

Good luck on legs. Try to take all of your frustrations out then.
 
Mattie, if I could tell you one thing and one thing only, it would be DON'T EVER WEIGH YOURSELF AGAIN!!

What is this, the biggest loser?? :)

My point: we are athletes. Not morbidly obese people on the brink of cardiovascular catastrophe!

Do what you did on your ab sling, STARE AT YOUR BODY when you need to see progress! Find new striations! You'll be gaining muscle and losing fat. The only thing really necessary (in my mind) is to weigh oneself before a cutting regimine, and after, along with bodyfat measurements, then to do the math and see how many pounds of fat you shredded.


I just think people focus on the scale far too much....in my HUMBLE opinion:)

you know, your RIGHT! im not gonna weigh anymore, maybe ill do it in a month or so...maybe :)
 
Hey, i'm hanging in trying to get a hang of not having carbups to look forward to :(

I do not envy you. Moving will absolutely drain you and wreck motivation. i would just accept that right now your program is not 100% because of the circumstances and focus on finishing the move and getting back to 100% then.

Also i'd say listen to your husband. He's able to look at you with perspective when you can't. Your view is being filtered through all of the negatives (scale weight hasn't gone done, i haven't been strict on my carbups, etc). He's seeing the difference while you can't. Hang in there!

Good luck on legs. Try to take all of your frustrations out then.

good call :) i think ill just stick to my diet this week, not carb up on friday, and then ill do a carb up next friday. it turns out moving is an ok workout anyway. he he...

i woke up quite small today, i feel very tight, so thats good. im still doing the EC stack. im starting to think maybe im very sensitive to water retention. im going to keep a closer eye on the salt. all i have to eat today is whey protein and all natural pb, i forgot to leave myself out some food for a couple days, these are the only 2 food items i didnt pack! haha
 
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