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Proviron - Your thoughts?
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krishna
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It will make test more effective, and help keep you hard and manage some of the bloat. It can also help with estrogen because it binds to aromatase. The reason it helps with libido is because it binds to SHBG and keeps free test levels higher. IMO, proviron is the best compound there is.
There's your answer. The other thing it does is polish your body. If you're lean it makes you look a lot harder.
Use 50mg/day. If you're using it for libido then you can go as high as 150mg. But very few people need that much. Usually only unicks who do deca/tren cycles need that much. Like Ret.
I love proviron. really adds a degree of hardness to the body with its androgenic/ anit-estrogenic(ya thats a weird combo) properties. the SHBG inhibiting effect is great too.
take a Test, winny, tren,eq, proviron combo and you will hard and muscular FAST and usually have to dose less test than you normally would!!
take a Test, winny, tren,eq, proviron combo and you will hard and muscular FAST and usually have to dose less test than you normally would!!
currently using with with prop,winny,tren, proviron s 50mgs edTheRide said:
def increases my hardness, which is weird to describe...but if def makes u look much better
libido is crazy despite lower test from 700 to about 400mgs ew
awesome compound...def will use it with cutters and during pct
Wulfgar said:
Test, winny, tren, EQ, and proviron!! Hey...i'm doing this exact cycle right now! This is my first time using Proviron and so far i'm totally happy with the results. I got some before and after pics i'll post...i'm running it for 14 weeks and i'm at the end of week 1. Today in the gym I was getting crazy pumps and loving every minute of it! I'm using the proviron at 25mg ED throughout the entire cycle...should I bump it up or is 25mg good?
Castro_bigdog
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You know, It is the best out thare and it should be ran with every cycle and 3 weeks at least after cycle. Some BB run it almost all year becouse it helps keep them looking hard for Mags shots and sh*t like that............. 
DannoMight
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I love proviron. I even use it with masteron and var and a few others during precontest.
Prizz
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Currently using Tren/Test Prop/Proviron..... I added the Proviron like 2 weeks ago.... Plan on running it into my PCT for a bit..... The 2nd day I started taking it, I noticed a difference in vascularity and muscle density..... It's the greatest drug cause it's non toxic, cheap, and yields amazing results..... Schering brand is the best IMO....
rizz
rizz
Im doing sust @250mg eod(week5) with 50-75 mg(was 50 but just upped to 75) of proviron ed and am holding less water than any other cycle ,on 500mg ew I look like a blow fish no abs and fat head ,very pleased with the results top 4 abs still visable and no fat head
I also get shitty when to much oestrogen builds but this time I have no side effects at all ,none! 825mg of test a week minimal bloat, viens popping out all over and I feel amazing
going too add some aromasin and get really dry
all in all I love proviron and dont think Ill cycle again with out it
I also get shitty when to much oestrogen builds but this time I have no side effects at all ,none! 825mg of test a week minimal bloat, viens popping out all over and I feel amazing
going too add some aromasin and get really dry
all in all I love proviron and dont think Ill cycle again with out it
YankeesMan
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I love Proviron 
Prizz
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DRRman said:
Using 50mg per day..... It's very rare that you will ever need to go above 50mg per day, unless youre on PCT, or just feel like adding more..... Hell yes, it's an oral, so it works FAST..... See, when i 1st started using AAS, there weren't many anti estrogens around..... This was before the AI's were around, so Proviron was big back then..... I got very used to cycling with it, esp with Test since it actually makes the Test more effective, and adds an amazing hard look to the muscles..... It takes away bloat, but not as well as the AI's, so I'll throw in like Adex too.... Just like with any AAS that increases muscle density and hardness, you need to be lean enough to see the effects.... If youre BF is too high, Proviron won't show its' effects, and you'll think all the hype is just hype.... Shame AG guys doesn't carry Proviron, I bet they would clean up on that one.....
rizz
njmuscleguy
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Castro_bigdog said:You know, It is the best out thare and it should be ran with every cycle and 3 weeks at least after cycle. Some BB run it almost all year becouse it helps keep them looking hard for Mags shots and sh*t like that.............
so you would run it through PCT as well? I've heard mixed views on when to run proviron... some say only during cycle.... some say during PCT... some say after PCT.... so what's up?
I'm thinking of throwing it into my current cycle tbol + test + tren cycle.... when I start the tren 1/2 way into the cycle....
Prizz
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njmuscleguy said:
Well, it will stop armoatization to an extent, so using it during PCT can be beneficial..... Personally, I don't use it during PCT, only cause I wanna give the androgen receptors a break, not cause it supprsses Natty Test..... Many use it when off other AAS, and Test lvls are in normal range for them.... I had a few buddies from my old gym that did this, and they never had probs with Natural Test lvls..... I'd say Proviron will be a good addition in that cycle..... However, it doesn't stop Dbol bloat very well just so youre aware....
rizz
Cauliflower Ear
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Im running on week 2 of 400mg/week EQ cycle. I have a fight coming up at the end of june and I want to be peaking on my EQ cycle(with the high red blood cell count and all) and then I am gonna add oral winnie at 50mg a day for the 3 weeks prior to my fight...Would Proviron be good to stick in there...What do you guys think?
njmuscleguy
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galaxy said:
how do you run yours?
Cauliflower Ear
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any help on possibly adding the primo
THE GOOD SUN
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Cauliflower Ear said:
just a suggestion, take or leave it but IMO ...you may want to skip the winnie, especially right before a meet or fight ...it can make your joints sore
oh and BTW good luck on your upcoming fight!!!!!
deezknuckles
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I am taking proviron for the first time 25 mg ED along with:
500 mg/wk Test (omna)
500 mg/wk Primo
.5 mg adex ED
10 mg aromasin (I just added this as I didn't have the bloat as controlled as I wanted).
I am just completing week 3 I started noticing great pumps/increased vascularity/libido at the beginning of week 2. I attribute this to the proviron because I would think that the Test/Primo wouldnt have kicked in so soon.
Ive gained 8-9 lbs and the bloat is under control.
The only side effect so far is a messy bathroom floor (I wake up every night ~2-3 am having to take a major piss from all thw water I drink, yet I have a raging hard-on. I have to stand ~5 ft from toilet to get the angle right. My wifes gonna kill me if this doesnt stop.)
500 mg/wk Test (omna)
500 mg/wk Primo
.5 mg adex ED
10 mg aromasin (I just added this as I didn't have the bloat as controlled as I wanted).
I am just completing week 3 I started noticing great pumps/increased vascularity/libido at the beginning of week 2. I attribute this to the proviron because I would think that the Test/Primo wouldnt have kicked in so soon.
Ive gained 8-9 lbs and the bloat is under control.
The only side effect so far is a messy bathroom floor (I wake up every night ~2-3 am having to take a major piss from all thw water I drink, yet I have a raging hard-on. I have to stand ~5 ft from toilet to get the angle right. My wifes gonna kill me if this doesnt stop.)
njmuscleguy
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deezknuckles said:
Mavafanculo
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On the question of sides, just be aware that if you are hair-sensitive, proviron it will SHREAD your head as well as your body lol.
But more importantly, it also destroys HDL levels similar to var and winny depending on the individual. likely due to its estrogen killing effects
But more importantly, it also destroys HDL levels similar to var and winny depending on the individual. likely due to its estrogen killing effects
Bruce
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well quite simply, it can boost free test up to 60%, though it will not build muscle. that increases libido and energy like a mufucka. it is an excellent AI for me and keeps me drier than anything else. in fact it is my fav steroid period. insane libido even without test on 800mg of eq and 75mg npp eod. i stay ripped and dry as a bone, muscles and dick are rock hard. you can run proviron whenever you want to. i was shut down so hard from a deca cycle i couldn't nut from jan to march. ulter told me to try proviron after i'd tried everything. bam one night problem fixed. got me a good year supply of proviron and keep it around like tylenol. i use as needed on cycle and if i need it post cycle i can tell you it will not suppress. if i am hurting during pct i'll incorporate it and it does wonders. like i said its my fav steroid and it doesn't even build muscle
njmuscleguy
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I'm curious too... never heard of Proviron being harsh on lipids or liver... Proviron is considered a modest anti-estrogen at best...
THE GOOD SUN
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Mavafanculo said:
get out ...say it ain't so
njmuscleguy
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rykertest said:Yeah that would suck man, I was looking forward to a nice EQ/Proviron cutter later this year. I have never had any hair loss issues, is it really that bad on hair? Can't they just create a compound without any sides?!?!?!
I don't have shedding or hairloss issues...not prone to MPB... I've taken Proviron throughout a cycle... test....even tren with test & proviron... I didn't have any hairloss issues... and I think this is the case with most guys that are NOT prone to hairloss.... you would know it if you were... and if you are, just think twice about running something like Proviron
rykertest
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njmuscleguy said:
Well, even though I am not prone, I use Nioxin shampoo on a daily basis to help remove DHT, so that may help. But baldness doesn't run in my family on either side, and I'm almost too old to care about hairloss anymore. I usually shave my head too so no big deal.
I was only going to run it for libido purposes since my next cycle is an EQ only cycle. Maybe 25 a day I think.
njmuscleguy
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rykertest said:Well, even though I am not prone, I use Nioxin shampoo on a daily basis to help remove DHT, so that may help. But baldness doesn't run in my family on either side, and I'm almost too old to care about hairloss anymore. I usually shave my head too so no big deal.
GO FOR IT MAN!
Yes Proviron has an affect on your lipids. Comparable to AS.
In studies where Test E raised LDL 65%, Mesterolone raised it by 46%.
Although I don't happen to believe in lipid profiles as an indicator of future CAD. And they are certainly NOT when you are talking about a short term fluctuation like a cycle.
Influence of various modes of androgen substitution on serum lipids and lipoproteins in hypogonadal men.Jockenhovel F, Bullmann C, Schubert M, Vogel E, Reinhardt W, Reinwein D, Muller-Wieland D, Krone W.
Klinik II und Poliklinik fur Innere Medizin, Universitat zu Koln, Germany.
In studies where Test E raised LDL 65%, Mesterolone raised it by 46%.
Although I don't happen to believe in lipid profiles as an indicator of future CAD. And they are certainly NOT when you are talking about a short term fluctuation like a cycle.
Influence of various modes of androgen substitution on serum lipids and lipoproteins in hypogonadal men.Jockenhovel F, Bullmann C, Schubert M, Vogel E, Reinhardt W, Reinwein D, Muller-Wieland D, Krone W.
Klinik II und Poliklinik fur Innere Medizin, Universitat zu Koln, Germany.
rykertest
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Ulter said:
OK so pardon my ignorance here, but I can live with lipid fluctuations on an injectable, but I always was under the impression that lipids were really trashed on orals such as var and winny. So you are saying that proviron is comparable to an injectable then? DO I understand you right? Thanks for the reply. K to Ulter.
rykertest
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Ulter said:
well, thats why I am a member here, to learn. Thank you oh wise one.
Just so I know, for the sake of argument here, lets say a test dose of 500 mgs a week has a 50% negative effect on choleterol levels, where would orals fall into that? 75% negative effect? I'm just trying to get a guage here. Thanks Ulter.
Mavafanculo
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Ulter said:
FROM THE SAME STUDY: (MES = mesterolone/proviron, TE = Test Ethan)
High-density lipoprotein cholesterol (HDL-C) showed a significant decrease by .... -34.9% +/- 2.5% (MES), -35.7% +/- 2.6% (TE)...
so you have lowered HDL, elevated LDL. Nice fucking of your hdl/total ratio which is key (altho low hdl is an independant risk factor in predicting an adverse cardiovascular event according to the literature)
for me, the effect was worse - II dont recall the exact numbers but recall that test (~500-750mg) + proviron (<= 100 mg) got my HDL into the the high teens. anavar and winny get me into the single digits.
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Black03SVTCobra
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proviron and AIFM, no water and vascular no matter what cycle you are on(I think except for maybe dobo). These two compounds together, right or wrong make me dry as can be.I would like to test this with Dbol, because it makes me into a air balloon. But to each his own, everyone reacts different. Like the one time when I tried to follow some of the back pages of Dan Duchaine (XPHDX) Chapter 48 page 325!!! Well I guess you could say I was in bad shape almost, in the ground shape, its funny to me to what critical extents I will go to, to achieve a certain goal, or if you would look, or even look.
njmuscleguy
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I'm 1 week into my current cycle:
Wks 1-4 Dbol 30mg ED
Wks 1-8 Test Prop 150mg EOD
Wks 1-8 NPP 100mg EOD
Wks 1-8 Proviron
AIFM
I was at 50mg ED Proviron for the first week, but as of today, still haven't gotten any increase in libido, either from the prop nor the proviron... weird... so I'm bumping up the proviron to 100mg for a while, to see how that goes... definitely bloating up, definitely noticing strength gains...I've gained 6 pounds in the first week (I know, I know, mostly water)... I've been toying with AIFM dosages, but I think I'm stabilizing at 2 sprays ED (for now)
Wks 1-4 Dbol 30mg ED
Wks 1-8 Test Prop 150mg EOD
Wks 1-8 NPP 100mg EOD
Wks 1-8 Proviron
AIFM
I was at 50mg ED Proviron for the first week, but as of today, still haven't gotten any increase in libido, either from the prop nor the proviron... weird... so I'm bumping up the proviron to 100mg for a while, to see how that goes... definitely bloating up, definitely noticing strength gains...I've gained 6 pounds in the first week (I know, I know, mostly water)... I've been toying with AIFM dosages, but I think I'm stabilizing at 2 sprays ED (for now)
Ulter said:
After 4 years of near continuous use, my cholesterol didn't raise one point. It's still 132. LDL very low. HDL went from 31 to 22. According to the dr. I spoke with, heart disease risk is low despite low HDL because overall cholesterol and HDL are so low. I once read that if your cholesterol is under 150, you're like an Asian, with almost 0 percent chance of a heart attack. Ratio is not important if say your overall cholesterol was 50 and your HDL was 5. That would be a 10:1 ratio but wouldn't matter because overall cholestrerol is so low. At least this is what I have been led to believe. Proviron didn't do shit for me. Either I need higher dose or it's bogus.
Doest do anything for me at 25mgs. I need at least 100mgs. I beleive i read a study where proviron use at 150mg for 18months had no adverse effects. I'll have too look for it but i probably wont.lol.....Either way i got some thinning beginnin up top so i wont be using it anymore. lol
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