New Member - Tertulian - Propecia Victim - LONGISH THREAD

[Tertulian]

New Member - Tertulian - Need help with estro fat and water

Hey guys,

I am new and I have lots of questions. I've been a member of a few forums. I've always been natty.

Up until September 2013 I was okay strong:
Squat ATG - 365x3
Dlift - 550x1
Bench - 325x2

Long story short, I took Propecia and everything went to hell. Dead dick, all of the time, genital numbness, shrinkage, feelings of despair, temptation to depression but I'm pretty strong mentally. I could feel that mood trying to overcome me. I would basically focus on something and tell myself everything good I've done.

So I got off of Propecia - finasteride but I still had side effects.

I went from a solid 250 to 289 in 3 months. I kept working out because symptoms hadn't yet affected my energy levels.
My last BodyFat Hydrostatic weighing had me at 289 lbs. 25.8% body fat.

Then chronic fatigue hit me hard in September. I saw a sexual medicine doc in December and he put me on Clomid 50mg M W F.
Lab said my Tot Test: 300, Free: 2.

The Clomid really helped with the bad mood feelings, the lethargy and chronic fatigue. This was a really big deal! BUT . . . . . .

I gained more weight now 315 lbs. I'm out of breath often, I've had 4 monster panic attacks where I wake up in high alert, yelling and already standing next to my bed, heart pounding out of my chest. You can imagine, my partner gets freaked out, I'm 6'3".

My doc just gave me a Rx for Anastrazole (Arimidex) 4-1mg pills, to be only taken once a week because he says he doesn't want my estrogen to go too low.

I talked to a moderator here that told me I should get a hold of some Aromasin, so I just ordered it.

I've been working out again, but mostly gymnastic movements with some squatting and Deadlifting mixed in.

So if you could please offer help, I'd be in your debt.
What should I do with all this water weight. I have dimpling between my thighs, my stomach is distended most of the time, and my face is puffy.

Tell me what you think.

I can't post direct links so I posted the url. You guys can copy and paste it into your browser if you want to see my lab work.

Here is my recent lab work drive.google.com/file/d/0B6P-Enc_R015Vmw1X0dnbWcwZnc/edit?usp=sharing

Tert

 

[Tertulian]

Bump^

 

[Arabian]

First off , I would stop everything and start over. You are taking Finistrade and the side effects include decreased sexual urges, head aches etc: You are taking Clomid on top of this and this is a female hormone that is known for causing moodiness etc: You are taking Armidex which is used as an anti estrogen drug to combat gyno, which taken in higher doses causes depression and sexual sides effects. You are taking 4 different compounds that essentially have the same side effects and this is multiplying your problems 10 fold. I would drop the dose of Finistrade in half or better and stop taking the Clomid all together. Then I would only take the Armidex if I suffered side effects of gyno. YOU HAVE TRUELY OVER MEDICATED YOURSELF, this is very dangerous my friend.

 

[Tertulian]

I wasn't clear.

I stopped taking Finasteride as soon as I felt acute symptoms in Sept 2012. I got much worse a year later in Sept 2013.

I had not been on Finasteride for at least 15 months before my Hormone doc got me on clomid.

Clomid was prescribed because my gonads weren't producing testosterone. It was secondary hypogonadism apparently because as soon as I was on clomid for 4 weeks my Total testosterone shot up to the very high range, but of course so did the estrodiol.

Right now I am on Clomid I guess as a sort of testis recovery and I am taking 1/4-1mg tab of Anastrazole daily.