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My goal: 400 lbs bench by December

JollyRogers

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Hey guys I was wondering how I could achieve a 400 lbs bench press by December, right now I’m doing 315 1x4 as a top build set, how do I get up to a 400 lbs one rep 1rm, what’s the most important thing to focus on while trying to get that high of a bench?

I would say lats and tri's if so what would be the best main moves to build strength and size, advanced exercises wise?? I know inclines are good also, but unsure of myself, can some people help me

I want it pretty bad !!


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Advanced exercises?

For triceps...close grip bp, floor press, high board presses, JM presses, skullcrushers, (arms in, not leaning forward) weighted dips.

Lats...to help with a bench, probably barbell rows.
 
I recently did a 4 board close grip bench - that worked the hell out of my triceps. I worked up to a max single, then I dropped the weight and did 4 lighter sets, pausing each time on the board. I think it should have good carry over to the bench.
 
Hey Jolly...I know you can do it. Do you have a video of your current form?

Where do you currently fail on the bench?

Have you ever trained for speed?
 
I dont have a video cam + I work out at the Y and I dont know if they would let me bring one in if I found one. Right now I have trouble getting past lockout, just before lockout, you know that umpff you need at the end of the motion...right there!

Nope, never done speed work before, I dont know too much about it, I think it helps with power no?
 
Perfect...work those triceps.

High board presses, JM presses, rolling extensions...

Speed will help you break through that point because you won't be in it long enough to stall. You don't have to have bands ands chains to do speed work, just use a lighter weight.

When you bench, where are your elbows and hands...and where does the bar meet your body (chest/stomach/sternum/etc)?
 
Speed work eh? I will try that out, what is a rolling extension btw..? The bar comes down to my chest about half an inch, almost a touch, near the neck area, my hands are gripped around the ring, I put my thumbs in lined with it, elbows are strait pointed down, I use my lats to help push it up along with my delts and then I squeeze my chest to push it before lockout, with my legs planted on the foot pedal at the end of the bench.

oh yeah .. for speed what kind of weight, sets, reps, and rate of motion do I work with?

edit: hey do you think maby i should plant my feet on the floor for a more stable push, cause those foot pedals make me balence myself on the bench?
 
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If you keep your elbows in, bench low, and use leg drive, you can probably hit 400 as soon as you "feel" it. In other words, if you benched like a powerlifter, you'd be WAY over 400, I'm sure.
 
Easiest way is to run a cycle of Halotestin. Do about 35mg/day for about 5 weeks and you should be in the 400 club by the end of June.
 
OR... ;)

Instead of using one main muscle to bench (his chest) he could recruit his lats, tris, shoulders, chest, traps, erectors, hamstrings, and calves to do the work. More workers, more productivity.

The BB bench is good for isolating the chest for hypertrophy. If you want a big bench, there are safer/smarter ways to do it.
 
Bro, just keep your head up and don't let your mind start having doubts.

I honestly remember a time when I thought "there's no way in hell "I'll bench 250lbs".

Then it was 275.

I remember 300lbs being a "no way in hell" to me.

Then one day I just "tried" 315 and it felt like 225. You know, I didn't even have a goal after 315, didn't have time to set it b/c one day I just went in, did 315 like a feather and was kinda like "what the fuck, throw 405 on there and let's see what happens".

Pow, nailed it. I swear I literally cut my workout short just to come home and brag/celebrate with people I knew.

The thing that put me over the top was carbs. EAT YOUR CARBS. Right now I am cutting up on clen/t3 and cut the carbs DRASTICALLY.....ckd....and now my bench is back down to like 315 bro. It doesn't bother me a bit b/c in my heart I will always know I got 405, so I KNOW I can do it :)
 
400 is definately nice, I am shooting for it myself ;)....

If you want 400, bench HEAVY HEAVY HEAVY. Heavy weight = more strength. Train your Tri's HEAVY. Skullcrush the piss out of them. Skullcrushers alone helped my max bench a TON. Bench heavy, skullcrushers, and weighted dips. 400 should be no problem by Xmas as long as your diet is right. Good luck bro..


Josh
 
i dont think you should be benching to the "neck area" as you said... i always thought it should be lower...correct me if im wrong...like below the nipples
 
JollyRogers said:

The bar comes down to my chest about half an inch, almost a touch, near the neck area,

edit: hey do you think maby i should plant my feet on the floor for a more stable push, cause those foot pedals make me balence myself on the bench?

Are you talking about the Incline bench press here?

I'm shooting for the 400 lbs raw club also. I'm 30 lbs away.

I do rows, board presses (just added these), close grip, skull cruchers, dips (just added these), shoulder press (just added these), JM press, rack lockouts, raw bench, incline's press, decline press, dumbell extensions, dumbell cleans. I don't do everything at once some for a few weeks then change. I'm doing a westside style workout with a metalmilitia bench program minus the shirt.
 
This will help a lot.

Setting up for Competition Bench Pressing
By: Sebastian Burns

When most people set up for the bench they usually don’t think that what they are doing is the most important part of the lift. They are focused on the weight and maybe the excitement of the meet or training session. What they don’t know is that the game is won or lost in the setup. I don’t think that many local gym rats even think about it at all. Judging by most of what I have seen working in the gym business for 15 odd years most people just lay down and push the bar up in whatever way possible. This is fine if you are a flat back benchin gym rat, but when you are looking to do some damage to the state, national, or world record books you will need to pay more attention to your setup. I have personally seen lifters add 50 to 100lbs to their bench in one or two training sessions just by improving their setup. That’s right, 50 to 100lbs!! Most lifters would say only a bench shirt could cause an increase like that. Well I will try to convey in writing the proper way to set up your bench press so you to can enjoy an increase like that.

Lets start with feet position your feet should be spread wide. A good rule of thumb here is to always spread your feet a little wider than you think they should be. If you keep that in your head over time you will be able to get them pretty wide if you are not flexible enough to do so in the beginning .Now lets look at foot placement. The way we will do this is to look at the foot in relation to the knee. The feet should be tucked behind your knee more towards your head and the angle of your leg from a side view should look like this (<). There is a few reasons for this foot placement the first being the ability to drive hard from your legs without your ass coming up off the bench. The second is stability. The wide stance will provide the base needed to steer heavy weight with a bench shirt on. The actual way you place your feet is also important. We have found that it is best to put the full force of your push onto the balls of your feet but at the same time pressing the heel to the floor. Pushing the heel to the floor can be used as a fine adjustment knob for getting weight to touch your chest with your shirt on. When you push your heel down this will cause your stomach to rise and will allow the bar to touch.

Now lets move beyond the feet to the hip joint. It is here that we create the angle of the upper leg (<) we are looking for to get the feet in the proper position. This is accomplished by flexing your gluteus as much as possible and rotating your crotch towards the bench (Balls to the bench if you will). If you follow all the steps up till here we have solved the problems of getting max stability with max leg drive without raising your ass off the bench. For most lifters this would seem impossible but with some time and a lot of effort you will get the position right. If your ass is still coming off the bench then your feet will have to go wider or farther back or both.

Next is the lower back, obviously this will determine most of your arch and you will need to really push yourself to get your arch up if you are not flexible enough to do so already. I cannot say enough how important it is that you try really hard to get better at arching it is almost the biggest piece of the shirt bench puzzle. There is a few ways I have seen over the years to try to help you arch, everything from placing various balls and boards under your back to crazy stretching exercises. My opinion here is that if you think it works then try it. I personally have never used anything except trying to arch higher and higher every single set and I have been told that my arch is one of the best save for a few girls who can just bend in half.

Now lets move to arching the upper back. Most people think that only the lower back arches but this is not so and this is very important if you want to get the most out of your shirt, this is accomplished by putting your upper trap on the bench and pushing your chest out as far as possible. To see what I am saying sit up straight in a chair and place your finger on the highest point on your trap you will see that this is not behind you but rather on top. This is what you are trying to get on the bench.

Now that we have made it this far lets talk about the final piece and perhaps the most important. Shoulder blade retraction the best way to explain this is to stand straight up and put your arms up like you are about to bench. Now have someone put his or her finger in the middle of your upper back on your spine. Pull your shoulders together and try to squeeze that persons finger notice your bench stroke will shorten a few inches from doing this. This will also aid in touching weight with a tight shirt on. The reason for it in the setup will be to hold your shirt in place while you are arching.

Now that we have broken down each area of the proper setup lets put it all together into one motion because it must become one fluid motion that does not require lots of valuable energy needed for the lift.

Start by sitting on the end of the bench retracting your shoulder blades keeping your shirt where you have placed it for the lift. Lying back on the bench and grabbing the bar with an underhand grip, next move your head and upper body thru the bench towards your handoff spotter while holding yourself up with your underhand grip. Shoulders still retracted, pull your feet back farther than where you would normally place them, almost where they are touching the cross member of the bench. Keep them there and start moving your body back toward the front of the bench without moving your feet. Once you feel a great stretch in your hipflexors. Anchor your hips to the bench and start rotating your crotch downward toward the bench. Your feet still remain in the extremely flexed position at this time. Shoulders still together chest and stomach pushed up real high, this is where you must focus on the upper back arch. You can also use your head to hold your upper back off the bench while you are trying to get the upper trap on the bench. When you feel you have enough of an arch to put your traps down, slam them down hard and dig in. All the time be aware of your shirt and arm position. Keep pushing your ass and your traps closer together using your feet at one end and pushing into the arch with your hands on the bar with the other. The whole time you are doing this you will need to be aware of your bench shirt and the position of your arms, I cannot stress this enough. Now that you are in position slide your feet forward (not too far) until you can get a solid base on the balls of your feet now push your heels to the floor. If you can do so easily you went too far. It should be hard to get them to touch the floor .Now without moving your shirt turn your hands around push together a little more take a deep breath and take the weight.

I hope you will incorporate some or all of these things into your bench setup.

With this type of setup you can add a decent amount of weight to your bench the same day you try it.
 
My bench jumped up 30 lbs in 4 weeks just by increasing the volume of my bench. IMO Volume is King.

If you feel like you're weak at the top, start hitting that part harder. Lockouts, 5 boards, and 4 boards.

Also don't forget to work those traps, HARD!
 
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