Karma inflation... How to fix it???

[Lestat]

Karma whores spinning the site into an e-conomic crash.

It's not the karmic totals that are the problem, its the karmic power. Put a roof on the karma totals allowing members to somehow bank their karma in million chunks which can be withdrawn or exchanged for goods when needed?

Change the karmic power so it works something like a lazer gun i.e. when it's fully charged it hits full power and then less and less until it's given time to recharge? Could have a little power meter to make it fun?

great ideas! very creative.

 

[Sanel27]

You're my boy and everything - but if you want to have a Karma-War (like you've done in the past) - keep in here in the "Chat Forum" - seems everytime theses a little scuffle going on over here - it ends up spilling over to other boards like AAS, and it can catch some good bros off-guard.


So have your battles, - but keep it here, cause AAS guys like Karma as much as anyone - we just don't talk about it in every other thread. (and for the most part, these guys cherish even the smallest amount of Karma..



So I can totally see where your problem lies BRR, cause it's almost a no-win situation.

BTW - what if you just did NOTHING?
What would be the "horror" of someone having 12,834,198,253 hits of Karma?...................although Karma is exchanged for cash, it's not like that person could buy E.F. with it......................

So true, im one of those juicers that itlnstln is talking about, not till i came here to C&C did i see how much karma meant and how people were whoring it...............dont get me wrong, i was handing out my paltry hits, but to the deserving bros/sisters, not just cause i had allowance and had to spend it cause it didnt rollover...........

Just lower the hits a bit...........not that im complaining, some top bros have hit me with some good karma, and most i earned betting in bookie forum....

 

[itlnstln]

So true, im one of those juicers that itlnstln is talking about, not till i came here to C&C did i see how much karma meant and how people were whoring it...............dont get me wrong, i was handing out my paltry hits, but to the deserving bros/sisters, not just cause i had allowance and had to spend it cause it didnt rollover...........

Just lower the hits a bit...........not that im complaining, some top bros have hit me with some good karma, and most i earned betting in bookie forum....

Hey - i like it as much as anyone .............................

 

[Big Rick Rock]

How could E.F. POSSIBLY - take real, cold cash from it's members without having COMPLETE knowledge of what could/would happen to "that" Karma.
there's no way it hit the Admins out of nowhere.

So here's the dilemma - all you can do is find a way to slow down the rate at which Karma is received (which isn't fair to the person that just bough a boatload of it, cause now it's technically not worth what he/she paid for it)...............so that's out.

You can't start everyone at zero - cause that's blatent "stealing".

So I can totally see where your problem lies BRR, cause it's almost a no-win situation.

BTW - what if you just did NOTHING?
What would be the "horror" of someone having 12,834,198,253 hits of Karma?...................although Karma is exchanged for cash, it's not like that person could buy E.F. with it......................

- If you know ANYHTING about basic economics... By decresing the rate at which Karma is generated, it will ADD VALUE to already existing Karma.

- We are not going to start everybody at Zero or take Karma away from people.






-BRR

 

[obiwan9962]

So true, im one of those juicers that itlnstln is talking about, not till i came here to C&C did i see how much karma meant and how people were whoring it...............dont get me wrong, i was handing out my paltry hits, but to the deserving bros/sisters, not just cause i had allowance and had to spend it cause it didnt rollover...........

Just lower the hits a bit...........not that im complaining, some top bros have hit me with some good karma, and most i earned betting in bookie forum....

i've appreciated every time you've hit me in response to one of my post orb

 

[obiwan9962]

- If you know ANYHTING about basic economics... By decresing the rate at which Karma is generated, it will ADD VALUE to already existing Karma.

- We are not going to start everybody at Zero or take Karma away from people.






-BRR

didn't you guys just revamp the k system last year?
i recall having 55 k points one day then 27 the next day
meanwhile the plat rodent went from something like 127 to 260

i guess being a payfor site you reward payfors

i thought i was adding value to your sites with all my recipes and advice about food and cooking and my witty reparte's

guess not

 

[Big Rick Rock]

Some great ideas in your post. I like your idea about making it Cost YOU something to give Karma...

Foreigngirl: it matters to admin, because this is a for profit site, and like everything else, karma needs to be leveraged to turn a profit. To make it valuable to members means money in the owner's pocket.

I agreed with a lot of what Mr. DB previously stated in this thread.

The system will always have a certain amount of imbalance to it because of a few factors:
1) Karma can be "created" by any member, on a daily basis, for free
2) Some people simple do NOT care about karma and give it to others, so you see evne more consolidation
3) This is more of a 2a, but you see very high participation in the karma bookie and the karma store by a few, and next to no participation by the majority.

So how would I fix it? I would introduce a new system, something that would not affect what is already out there, although the current system may need changes.

A new system should have the following mechanisms built in:
1) a way to opt in or out of the system completely. That way, you don't have people who don't want to participate or don't care, in the system. you could try to make participation in the system based on something like a fee. karma bookie, karma poker, make it fee based, but of course you will have to do make the end result, call it karma, worth something
2) make karma really worth something
3) make it cost a person something to GIVE karma. I like the idea that giving away karma actually takes it from your total. Maybe not on a 1 for 1 ratio, but making it cost something to the person giving it will be the first step in reducing the whoring.

BRR you are right, the inflation has happened, and will only get more and more rapid as time goes on, its exponential growth.

Ironically, the same thing happens here in the US with wealth. Wealth, like karma, can be created by people. Example? Go saw a tree down and build something out of it that someone wants, like a canoe, and you've created some value, you traded in your time and effort and created something with monetary value.

Those who have money (or in our case karma) can easily get more. Those without have no shot in hell at getting as much as the top without some serious luck or good fortune (aren't they the same thing)

Anyway, those are my thoughts. And no i don't care to be moderator, I just enjoy participating in the site in many ways.

 

[obiwan9962]

hmm me thinks while c&c forum has been alot of fun i might just reimmigrate back to the food and supps forums and stay there

 

[itlnstln]

- If you know ANYHTING about basic economics... By decresing the rate at which Karma is generated, it will ADD VALUE to already existing Karma.

- We are not going to start everybody at Zero or take Karma away from people.






-BRR

You could say I know a thing or two about economics..........LOL

it's just hard to actually fathom the idea that we are talking about little green specks of karma as if it were Money (cause in all honesty - for a lot of people - IT IS)


SERIOUSLY - good luck BRR

 

[obiwan9962]

You could say I know a thing or two about economics..........LOL

it's just hard to actually fathom the idea that we are talking about little green specks of karma as if it were Money (cause in all honesty - for a lot of people - IT IS)


SERIOUSLY - good luck BRR

it would be much better if the system was fair
instead of so gobsmacked in favour of the few