Karma inflation... How to fix it???

[obiwan9962]

I still say k war is a nice fun way to get rid of all the k.

you just love bombing e-bros don't you?

 

[JayC9]

Karma whores spinning the site into an e-conomic crash.

It's not the karmic totals that are the problem, its the karmic power. Put a roof on the karma totals allowing members to somehow bank their karma in million chunks which can be withdrawn or exchanged for goods when needed?

Change the karmic power so it works something like a lazer gun i.e. when it's fully charged it hits full power and then less and less until it's given time to recharge? Could have a little power meter to make it fun?

 

[theoak01]

I think keeping it just the same is a great idea,start tinkering too much and people will be resistant to change, Ive been here a long time and have saw every kind of change happen to this place,some good some bad, I think that messing around with things all the time is too nit picky, I understand your just trying to make the site the best it can be,but sometimes its good to leave things as they are.


nobody is really bitching and moaning about it,we all seem content so I believe we should just leave it be.

yours in sport
theoak01

lol

 

[Big Rick Rock]

Karma whores spinning the site into an e-conomic crash.

It's not the karmic totals that are the problem, its the karmic power. Put a roof on the karma totals allowing members to somehow bank their karma in million chunks which can be withdrawn or exchanged for goods when needed?

Change the karmic power so it works something like a lazer gun i.e. when it's fully charged it hits full power and then less and less until it's given time to recharge? Could have a little power meter to make it fun?

A couple of good ideas there.

 

[obiwan9962]

I think keeping it just the same is a great idea,start tinkering too much and people will be resistant to change, Ive been here a long time and have saw every kind of change happen to this place,some good some bad, I think that messing around with things all the time is too nit picky, I understand your just trying to make the site the best it can be,but sometimes its good to leave things as they are.


nobody is really bitching and moaning about it,we all seem content so I believe we should just leave it be.

yours in sport
theoak01

lol

"is this as good as it gets?"

 

[JayC9]

i agree but i think perhaps a minimum of 15 words would be the criteria and each word needs to be different not just "yo yo yo yo yo yo...."
i think at least one of the top 3 k owners would soon falter
25 words on some subjects would leave the masses aghast sorry orb galaxy

What would stop people from cutting and pasting 15 completely random words?

 

[theoak01]

"is this as good as it gets?"

I think how the site is run yes,this is great.

I do recall better times with other members more active who have moved on for one reason or another,but I do enjoy my time here emensly and will still contribute and come back until they shut er down,I love this place

 

[itlnstln]

I still say k war is a nice fun way to get rid of all the k.

You're my boy and everything - but if you want to have a Karma-War (like you've done in the past) - keep in here in the "Chat Forum" - seems everytime theses a little scuffle going on over here - it ends up spilling over to other boards like AAS, and it can catch some good bros off-guard.

So have your battles, - but keep it here, cause AAS guys like Karma as much as anyone - we just don't talk about it in every other thread. (and for the most part, these guys cherish even the smallest amount of Karma.

NOT FLAMAING - there's some great people on both boards, and just when it seems everyone is starting to really get along - an Admin steps in and potentially draws new lines in the sand.

How could E.F. POSSIBLY - take real, cold cash from it's members without having COMPLETE knowledge of what could/would happen to "that" Karma.
there's no way it hit the Admins out of nowhere.

So here's the dilemma - all you can do is find a way to slow down the rate at which Karma is received (which isn't fair to the person that just bough a boatload of it, cause now it's technically not worth what he/she paid for it)...............so that's out.

You can't start everyone at zero - cause that's blatent "stealing".

So I can totally see where your problem lies BRR, cause it's almost a no-win situation.

BTW - what if you just did NOTHING?
What would be the "horror" of someone having 12,834,198,253 hits of Karma?...................although Karma is exchanged for cash, it's not like that person could buy E.F. with it......................

 

[obiwan9962]

What would stop people from cutting and pasting 15 completely random words?

make it so nonplats and peeps with less than 100 k power can call BS
in doing so docking 5000 points from the bs'rs

 

[Lestat]

Foreigngirl: it matters to admin, because this is a for profit site, and like everything else, karma needs to be leveraged to turn a profit. To make it valuable to members means money in the owner's pocket.

I agreed with a lot of what Mr. DB previously stated in this thread.

The system will always have a certain amount of imbalance to it because of a few factors:
1) Karma can be "created" by any member, on a daily basis, for free
2) Some people simple do NOT care about karma and give it to others, so you see evne more consolidation
3) This is more of a 2a, but you see very high participation in the karma bookie and the karma store by a few, and next to no participation by the majority.

So how would I fix it? I would introduce a new system, something that would not affect what is already out there, although the current system may need changes.

A new system should have the following mechanisms built in:
1) a way to opt in or out of the system completely. That way, you don't have people who don't want to participate or don't care, in the system. you could try to make participation in the system based on something like a fee. karma bookie, karma poker, make it fee based, but of course you will have to do make the end result, call it karma, worth something
2) make karma really worth something
3) make it cost a person something to GIVE karma. I like the idea that giving away karma actually takes it from your total. Maybe not on a 1 for 1 ratio, but making it cost something to the person giving it will be the first step in reducing the whoring.

BRR you are right, the inflation has happened, and will only get more and more rapid as time goes on, its exponential growth.

Ironically, the same thing happens here in the US with wealth. Wealth, like karma, can be created by people. Example? Go saw a tree down and build something out of it that someone wants, like a canoe, and you've created some value, you traded in your time and effort and created something with monetary value.

Those who have money (or in our case karma) can easily get more. Those without have no shot in hell at getting as much as the top without some serious luck or good fortune (aren't they the same thing)

Anyway, those are my thoughts. And no i don't care to be moderator, I just enjoy participating in the site in many ways.