Joined 18th August, starting September 1 ("project Des")

[desmond]

REST DAY

DIET (300P+ no shakes)

Intend to consume:
- 100g low-fat cheese
- 2 glasses skim milk
- 700g kangaroo
- 300g salmon
- 5 whole eggs

I do have to wonder whether this kangaroo diet I'm now on lol is dangerously high in iron. But can't afford chicken in this quantity. Iron is claimed by the WHO to be a cargigen, but I'm assuming elevated levels would have to be over a long time. Kangaroo is very low in sat fat though which is good

I'm only writing this up as this is the first time I've hit the 1kilo meat mark twice in a week! I can't do this in 3 meals, so 1/2 of that kangaroo is for between meals

(293P; 27C; 74F).

The remaining carb sources (oat bran, cocoa, butternut squash, greens) will push me over 300, and ensure fat around 90.

So much meat lol

 

[iggy]

wow, can you get kangaroo in the u.s.?

 

[desmond]

wow, can you get kangaroo in the u.s.?

It wouldn't be cheap in US.

$7 per kilo in AUS, 98% fat free, similar iron/zinc levels to beef, 0.4% sat fat, highest natural source of CLA.

$7AUS= about $US4.6 I think ATM

Actually managed 360g of protein. Got quite hungry at the end of the day for some reason, felt a slight possibility of cheating, so 9pm dinner was 400g kangaroo, 300g onion, 200 red peppers, bigger than normal, but no disaster. I kinda wish onions were a bit lower in carbs - can eat them endlessly when grilled on george forman

 

[desmond]

Consolidated List of DIET QUESTIONS:

Hi Omega, I have sent u many of these as PM's or in my journal, but it may be confusing now I've consolidated all my diet questions in this post

(1) PROTEIN INTAKE

You have said to me up my protein intake by 50g, which takes it to 250g and then also said consume 300g on rest days?

Is this correct - u want me to consume more on the rest day? BTW, to get 300P on rest days without shakes I hope u don't mind if I eat more than 3 meals.

(2) FAT INTAKE

My initial fat intake was 90g, and u have said to up this by 30g 1-2 hours before training.

First, what is the rationale behind this? Isn't there a risk that the PWO carb insulin spike will cause this to be stored as fat?

Before training (and I guess in general), what fats do you prescribe/proscribe? Just mono or poly (nuts, seeds, avocados, salmon, eggs) or is sat fat ok (beef, cheese). I note u said butter was OK pre-workout so I was thinking that perhaps anything but trans fat is ok. Particularly, what about cashews or cheese - haven't had them for ages and love it!

What about flax/fish fat pre-workout given its antiflamattory properties may limit muscle growth.

(3) CARB INTAKE

Mine is set at 220, but is this the same on rest days. Reason I ask is now I'm consuming 300g on rest days - and 300P, 220 (net) C, 90F seems like a lot of cals for days I'm burning very little. should I cut carbs on these days a bit?

(4) Eating nocturnally

This entire program, I've been eating nocturnally. I.e., as part of my protein intake, I consume about 100g of tuna about 3-4am simply because I'm a terrible sleeper and have always woken up 3-5 times per night. Is this fine - it seems to assist now that I'm aiming for 300P too

(5) one more too this list

Breakfast if its pre-workout.

If I am meant to consume 30F pre-workout, and pre-workout is breakfast, do I still consume a decent serving of carbs? I think I work out better after a decent size of carbs in the morning.

The only thing is a pre-workout meal of 30F, 60-80C, 50P is quite a lot of cals. Is it OK to do this? Something like oats + whole milk + 3 eggs + kangaroo?

 

[deezy1225]

damn i want kangaroo !!

 

[desmond]

Ok - there has been one major diet cheat since I last posted. Wasn't amused.

Weight updates - some PB's since last posted:

DB rows - 50lbx6
DB bench - 65x7
DB side lateral raises - 20lbx5 (I got the 15x10, unfortuantely no in between)
Wide squat - 10x80kg. My form is now finally good. A shame taken so long
Triceps - 28kgx7
Bisceps no improvement - why do I have such weak arms lol
Deadlift - 110kgx7 (maybe too quick)
Lat Pull down - 55kgx6

Omega: what are ur thoughts re leucine,

http://www.sportsnutritionsociety.org/conference_presentations/ISSNConference_200806_Layne.pdf
Disruption of BCATm leads to increased energy expendature - Forums

I know Layne Norton's research suggests that excessive meal frequency actually makes you protein refractory - supports your diet idea in this regard.

BTW, for the 30g of fat pre-workout, I'm using whole meal. Please advise if this dispeases you. I assume its analgous to butter

General physique updates:
- chest/shoulders/back looking better. Arms have platueued. Chest is quite disprportionate to rest of body (although avatar doesn't show it, but trust me it is). It's quite ripped though - line 2/3's way up. I would like more middle/upper chest. The chest width is really good

 

[OMEGA]

Hi

~Butter and Olive oil are ideal fats based on in the trenches Experience.
~also isolated Fats are ideal, look at it as a bolus dose as specifically for Raw Pure intense energy

~Luecine and Glutamine are INCREDIBLE acticatabolics on or OFF anabolics

deceptively simple yet POWERFUL much like Creatine as far as what it brings to the table for the athlete.

 

[desmond]

Thanks Omega
- I will go with the olive oil. I'm sure its unjustified, but there is something weird health wise to me for downing that much butter.
- I ordered 4 kilos of leucine to add to my supplement arsenal. Got a decent price. Layne Norton absolutely loves it (writes lots of articles on it) so thought I'd give it ago.

Hi

~Butter and Olive oil are ideal fats based on in the trenches Experience.
~also isolated Fats are ideal, look at it as a bolus dose as specifically for Raw Pure intense energy

~Luecine and Glutamine are INCREDIBLE acticatabolics on or OFF anabolics

deceptively simple yet POWERFUL much like Creatine as far as what it brings to the table for the athlete.

 

[OMEGA]

Layne is a Great guy
I know him

 

[iggy]

keep up the good work des! just double checking whats your current supplementation as of now.