info on a national middleweight

[wilson6]

This info came from a National Middleweight competitor. Been in the Nationals several times. Saw her at the Arnold off-season and only contest ready pics, but she gets ripped and hard contest time. Only uses ephedrine/caffeine for thermogenics, similar rotating diet that my client used, but I don't know the specifics. Low intensity cardio (walking and cycling) precontest.

The following is not a recommendation, just telling it as I heard it.

Off-season, year-round 200 mg/wk testosterone enanthate

16 weeks out from a show. Either add another 200 mg/wk TE or add 200 mg/wk nandrolone. Total weekly, 400 mg.

Start dieting 12 weeks out. Gets no higher than 15% bodyfat off-season. She weighed about 145 when I skinfolded her a couple of years back at the Arnold. Was a little under 15% if I remember.

8 weeks out. Cut the test and nandrolone in half, add 50 mg winny 3x/wk and 5 mg oxandrolone per day.

7 weeks out. Cut the test and nandrolone completely. Increase the winny to 75 mg/ 3x wk and up OX to 10 mg/d.

3-4 weeks out, up the winny to 100 mg/3x per week and OX to 15 mg/d.

After the show, drop the OX and winny and go back to T and/or N. Get blood work done.

W6

 

[Iron Queen]

I could see doing all of that besides the test... Thats crazy. Wow. Side effects have gotta be huge. Nandrolone, ok. but test that would scare me.
What is her contest weight and approx. age?

Just curious.

--Iron Queen

 

[BrickGirl]

200mg of Test and I would have a problem walking by a door knob.

 

[wilson6]

I think she comes in around 130. Early 30's if I remember.

The side thing is surprising. Even when she was at the Arnold and off-season on test, aside from the deeper voice (but not baritone), hair looked good (i.e., no balding) and skin was remarkably clear. Light acne at most. She was one of the BBs that I spoke of a while back who had sides to start (i.e., the usual deeper voice, enlarged clit, prominent acne, etc.) but as time went on the voice stabilized, clit stopped growing and acne cleared aside from some sporadic light outbreaks. Even at 400 mg/wk, she said that things didn't really worsen.

This is why I hypothesize that androgen use in women is like puberty in boys. Once the changes occur, they stabilize and the acne clears despite continuing use possibly due to a down regulation of skin androgen receptors. However, like puberty in boys, the virilizing sides are permanent and not everyone is the same. For some the acne is terrible and persistent on test. For others, it's manageable and clears in the long-term with low to moderate doses.

I'll ask her if she has problems with door knobs if I see her at next year's Arnold or the National's if I go.

W6

 

[Sassy69]

I hypothesize that androgen use in women is like puberty in boys

So additional sides would be wet dreams, getting a hard on in the library and punching girls that you like?

 

[dieslgrl]

brickgirl

You've got me laughing my ass off over here.... I know the feeling!!!

Dieslgrl

 

[dieslgrl]

shit

shit you girls are cracking me up over here... just saw your post Sassy 69... too funny