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I want to start a new powerlifting organization!

Lots of strongman competitors are avid RAW debaters...lol.

You better believe that if I compete in a contest that allows tacky, arm sleeves, elbow sleeves, knee wraps on the elbows, knee wraps, belts, compression shorts...or a spring on my butt when I squat...I will use it. I want to win.

If it is allowed and I choose to compete with their rules...I better be willing to push their rules.

B True
 
Sadly this once funny thread has devolved into a raw vs. equipped thread.

RAW is a joke.

Nobody cares what you can bench without a shirt.

I would be ranked the same with or without equipment.

If you don't like my shirt, blow me!!!

The above are quotes by Ricky Crain, Louie Simmons, One of our esteemed board members who can claim it if he likes, and the final quote is by me!!!

I get over 100 lbs out of a shirt. Guess what? I use whatever is allowed in my organizations. Guys who have lifted with me can tell you I wear a fairly loose shirt, and still get that much out of it. Don't like that? Lick my balls!! Or better yet, put my shirt on and do the lift yourself. Shut me up. Show me how you could break state, national and world records, if only you had this shirt or that gear or whatever.

It doesn't matter what shirt you wear, you still have to lock that shit out. I have a very good friend on this board who can outbench me raw, and I can outbench him with a shirt. And I guarantee you, he would be the last person to bitch about my shirts. I can lock out more and he is stronger off the chest. That explains the difference.

Once again. RAW is a joke for competition. Train raw, be strong raw, but when you compete, you had better put on a shirt or some weak little bitch who is all shirt is going to hand your ass to you.

B.
 
b fold the truth said:
Lots of strongman competitors are avid RAW debaters...lol.

You better believe that if I compete in a contest that allows tacky, arm sleeves, elbow sleeves, knee wraps on the elbows, knee wraps, belts, compression shorts...or a spring on my butt when I squat...I will use it. I want to win.

If it is allowed and I choose to compete with their rules...I better be willing to push their rules.

B True

Speaking of bending the rules did you see the WSM qualifier where the little english dude used a loop of duct tape to help him carry the Africa stone? It was really cool, he was like "There was nothing in the rules about it, even though they will probably make one, but I did what I had to to get ahead."

Kind of like the Kazmeyer rule with the atlas stones.

I guess you guys have a point. I was thinking about it from a perspective of, what is powerlifting all about? I thought it was about who's the strongest. I guess I'm kind of romantic that way. But I see that it's more about the competition and the recognition, beating the next guy and setting the new record. Using and pushing the rules to the limit, knowing what's allowed and what's not, and training yourself to be the best within those rules. I can't criticize the use suits if they are allowed any sooner than I can criticize Arnold for psyching out his opponents. Powerlifters probably try to psych each other out all the time too. It's just part of the game.

JC
 
Correction to the above Ricky Crain Quote. I believe after I thought about it that he actually said, "There is no such thing as RAW"

B.
 
This debate is fought in all sports. Baseball has it juiced ball.
Golf has new hi-performance golf balls and metal drivers. The
shoes have improved in basketaball. There are those that hate
the hot baseball, new metal drivers, etc. They long for the old
days. Well the old days are gone. It is a new day.

I would have to be stupid to go to a golf tourney and face 460
yard par fours with my old non-metal woods. No one would give
a crap about my average length drives with the old technology.
People want to see me hit 320 yards, not the 270 I would get
with the old stuff. It is the same with baseball. People want to
see McGuire, Sosa and Bonds launch the ball out of the park.

I have yet to go to a PL'ing contest. When I do it will be at a
meet where gear is used. My friends want to here about big
numbers and raw will not cut it.

Equipment is here to stay. I for one will use it to the best of
my ability and post the biggest possible numbers I can.
 
Jon Crane i see your point. You have the strongest lifters period. Then basically you wanna see them go at it raw. I for one would pay to see it. But it will never happen. Its just one of those things. Take a look at there workouts if you ever get a chance and you can see how strong they are.

Brian
the third quote was me "I would be ranked the same with or without gear"! You got a memory like an elephant!

Cause even though i will always wear equipment i can fuckin sling some weight raw as well. And if it was outlawed (gear) you can bet your ass i would still compete. Just wouldnt lift as much!

I didnt mean to turn his funny thread into a debate, but he refered to me so i answered.
 
Hannibal said:
Would you play professional football without pads? I mean pads are allowed in the rules...but if your anti-equipment idea holds true then it is cheating..because it is not showing how much pain that your body can endure. To keep the comparison going....if you wanted to test your true football ability....go play FLAG FOOTBALL!!

that is the best statement I've heard on this subject.
 
You will never see the best in the world compete raw... If George Halbert competed without his Inzer shirt...Inzer would not give him sponsorship money. I train to compete with certain luxuries in a contest: continental clean, head through the log, tacky, etc...

Andrew Stumpy Raines...lol...he was a force. Funny thing is...most Hussefeld Stones are MUCH thicker than the Africa Stone. Most people can't get their hands near touching on a good Hussefeld Stone.

B True
 
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