I got alot of questions!!

[Deleted member 33117]

Also bear in mind that Dave Polumbo is one of the all-time largest freaks, yet he only eats a large amount of carbs once every 7-10 days when bulking. Plus he stays alot leaner than most large bodybuilders year round. Its more common than alot of people on the boards seem to realize.

 

[The Red Dragon]

Well it's very very hard to get huge/monstrous man. I'd say, the more muscle you have, the more fat you can carry around and still look decent. So keep gaining that muscle. Creatine, lots of people take it, but it's a bulking thing. People told me, if I were to take it, I'd have to drink a lot of water.

Carbs are not evil unless you don't use em . If you're that scared, eat low GI carbs, you do need them for energy for anerobic exercises...unless you're cutting.

Cardio will interfere with mass gaining, but as I said sprinting/HIIT cardio after your workout should be fine =/ at least you'll grow slow twitch fibers that way. I wouldn't do cardio though, it's your choice.

I wouldn't be concerned about your lack of strength. We all have to start somewhere. Just remember not to compare yourself with others. At any rate, this sport is about progress...keep increasing the weights on deadlifts/squats/bench and I guarantee you'll get stronger and more muscular (not to the point of being huge, you won't be a monster unless you eat like one)...yeah rest too (8 hours a night will do).

And of course the most important...be comfortable with yourself. I'm sure you weren't/aren't that fat, and you shouldn't be too concerned about getting fat =/...as long as you eat cleanly and train smart you'll have a top notch body. That's all. Good luck.

 

[Davegrun]

What is RD and CDK? Also, was i right about not eating too many carbs? I am purposely trying to gorge on protein now mostly naturaly (I have no idea if that is a good thing or not) but would eating alot of pasta and other complex carbs make me chubby? The weird thing was, my entire until about a year ago, i ate whatever the hell i wanted, without even a thread of thought about getting chubby. Last year, people told me i had put on a couple pounds, and i just laughed it off in denial. Think of it like telling an Aneroxic they are getting fat. I just couldn't think of me and fat in the same sentance. That is basically what was making me paranoid. I ate horrible foods all my life, and was ridicously underweight for 15 years, than in the blink of an eye, i got fat. I had an ultra fast metabolism, and all of sudden i just got chubby. I was never fat fat, i just was reeeeel flabby and had slight man boobs and the doouble chin going. Like i said before, i am not hardcore fitness or anything now, i just want to fill out and not be skinny and not be fat. Don't know if this all makes sense or not.

 

[Davegrun]

Its not that i don't appreciate the hard work and willpower it took for me to lose weight. I know i wasn't "fat", just a little chubby, but i don't understand how almost two months at the gym did nothing. That workout i posted is about 1 week old, so i am actually not sure if i will beneifit from it or not. the workout i did for the other month and a half was pretty much do 3 reps of 15 for every excersice with the same weight all through. I would do pretty much every muscle group with about 10 excersises total, and do the same routine every day. No muscle isolation. Also, what foods can i just eat a ton of, that aren't fattening and unhealthy, and still taste decent. For the past 2 weeks, i have been eating alot of pizza, and i have not gained any fat, actually still losing weight slowly, so that is good. I know i can't eat pizza all day though to get bigger and gain weight, becuase it will eventually catch up to me and make me fat. I am also very unsure how to tell if the weight i am gaining is from the extra fat from food i am eating, or muscle. I want to be happy when i see 5 more pounds on the scale, not confused.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Yeah it makes sense. You just happened to come to a bodybuilding board. You may notice the first message board on the list is the anabolic board. 95% of the registered users here are steroids users, so this is more for people who train hardcore, but still you can pick up some useful dieting and training information. The information I gave you was useful. If you don't want to have extra bodyfat you can't eat pizza every other day as you said though. What type of look exactally are you going for? You're answers are a bit vague, and again the phases, fit, not fat, not skinny and monster are very very subjective. To one person Vin Diesel looks like a monster, but for others he would need to gain at least 100 ibs of muscle to be close. Some think Ed Norton looks fit, others think he is what you called "skinny" and has no muscle. Do you see what I mean?

 

[The Red Dragon]

RD is me lol...
CKD = cyclic ketogenic diet. it's a restricted carb diet where you're off carbs for 5 days and on for 2 days (check diet board). It's basically atkins 5 days of the week and 2 days of that week you gorge on carbohydrates (your body is more likely to pack sugar into glycogen when you're body is starving of it)
For weight loss, yes, you were correct by not eating that many carbs. Protein is fine but an excess gets deaminated...so you're basically sucking down expensive sugar. I'd get 1 g of protein/lb of bodyweight, some people would advise more...
Yeah the most prominent things in your posts is your insecurity about weight...that's just not healthy. Heh, to pull your body from one extreme to another you gotta be hardcore . But I don't think you were that fat...but since you're going to be spending time getting fit you might as well be doing it efficiently otherwise you'd be wasting your time =/. I equate hardcore with training efficiency.
It's the simple carbs that make you chubby...also insulin spikes during non post workout periods is pretty bad for ya. Pasta is fine provided that you use up your glycogen (ie you gotta train, and train hard). BTW I think simple/complex carbs is outdated, I use the Glycemic Index scale. The lower the glycemic index the better (for keeping weight and insulin/blood sugar stable).

Heh, well you don't have your adolescent metabolism anymore...you gotta start eating clean and train to look decent (from society's persepective) now.

 

[Davegrun]

I am not fat at all now, alot people of people think i am anorexic from how skinny i got. I still got a little flab here and there, but it is fine. A trainer at the gym i go to did my body fat and it was 8%. That sounds ridicuosly low, and the guy that did it was probably an idiot, but that is the only number i have to go by.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Ok, I based my original diet on the fact that you said you were fat. I assume at least 30% bodyfat when you say that. Just avoid processed foods then. Don't eat anything with the following words in the ingrediants:
sugar
high fructose
corn syrup
dextrose
maltodextrin
brown sugar
hydrogenated (followed by any type of oil)
partially-hydrogenated " "
Haha good luck, that means nothing man-made.

Eat a nice balance of protien, carbs and fat. Eat alot of veggies, don't rely so heavily on fruits though. That is basically what you should do to just stay lean while training. Junk food and refined foods are out. The things I said about the training routine still apply. You wish to gain 20 ibs or more of muscle and my pointers will help with that.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

RD is right about the metabolism thing. Only adolecents with insulin-insensitivity problems tend to be fat. The rest can eat junk-food all day long. However, here is the problem with eating like that. You might be skinny until you are 17 or 18, then you keep eating junk-food and your metabolism slows down as you age. If it doesn't catch up with you at 18 or 19 (some get away with this) it will at around 25 or 26 when your metabolism slows down again. So unless you are one of those guys who by that age can eat pizza every day and weigh 110 ibs (about 5% of the guys out there, or less), your going to start gaining fat, and will have a nice little gut. Kind of like half the guys in my classes in college.

 

[Davegrun]

I always used to drunk a butt load of soda, and would drink an entire 2 liter bottle of crap juice (Like ocean spray cran-strawberry, damn i miss that) in one sitting. I was never really a sweets lover, i would just drink a ridicoulous amount of shit drinks and soda all day without giving it a second thought. I bet that is what made me fat, not the carbs in pasta and stuff.