I never do dead lifts. On the advice of my chiropractor. The muscular developement is basic nill, and the exposure to lower back damage extreme. Not that Yates rows are any easier on the back but the Muscular Development is very high from the Yates RoWs.
they dont target any different muscles than what a normal row do
dorian used a reverse closer grip and stayed at a little more upright so that he was in a mechanically stronger position
its not that it worked different muscles.......... it was the same movement where he could use more weight.
deadlifts are fine for everyone by the way.......... they are safe as any exercise........ or as dangerous.......... its not the exercise.... its the lifters form
nice picks though...... you look quite thick and wide
To back up what Bfold says, I know a powerlifter who was rated amongst the best in the country in the mid-90's. To say that he had thick and wide back would be an understatement of gross proportions. He didnt get that way through doing cable exercises and pull-ups.....and from what he tells me he wasn't a one off freak. Big deadlift = big back. Cant get much simpler than that.
b fold the truth said:
You are right I guess...deadlifts build a weenie back. My back is tiny and all I ever do for it is deadlifts anymore
I guess you didnt get the subtlety of my comment. I never said dead lifts would make you bigger. I said that it doesnt increase MUSCULAR DEVELOPEMENT. From a bodybuilding perspective strength is not my primary goal, developement is. Is you dont believe that dead lifts greatly impact the lower back consult your chiropractor and sports ortopedic Dr. Oh if you have perfect form everysingle lift never cheating NO EXERCISE is a problem.
Further more Fold.......your pic indicates some good thickness especially at that close range..... thats about all that can be said.
I havent done deadlifts in 5 years and I have 23 inch back spread(flexed) and thats integrated into 53 inch total chest measurement(flexed).
I CAN HARDLY WAIT! Regardless the post wasnt ment for discussion. It was set up for the guy who asked for advice on building his back. THis is how I have done.
When doing rows, does the incline of your torso make a differnce in terms of development? I'm hearing 45 degrees, 30 degrees, and I've seen some people keep their torsos parallel with the floor. That can't be good for the lower back right?
Bent rows put serious torque on the lower back. No way around it. I like the 30 degree position because it gives me the best results in bring my back out from the lower area of my back. I want the lats to appear to com out from my hips. Not possible I know thats just the appearance goal I have.