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HBO Special and "Done Correctly" (cycle advice)

My opinion differs greatly from the majority of individuals on here, but here it goes anyway:

After doing my first cycle in 1997 at the age of 28... I learned a few things. For myself the majority of my gains came in the first 4-6 weeks of a cycle. After that, it just seemed to be a waste of gear. I dabbloed with a 16 week cycle and it was the worst time of my life... the recovery, depression and overall malaise sucked so bad. This lead me to the conclusion: My cycles do not need to exceed 5 weeks.

Following this protocol, I do about three 5 week cycles a year. I do not compete, nor do have any desire to do so, but many people ask me if I do or if I will. I currently weigh between 225 and 230 at about 8%. I used to be 245 at about 10% when I was contemplating competing, but I felt the cartoon character bodybuilding body was not for me. Also, my ass response is much better at 220-230 at 7-8% than 245-250 at 10-11%.

I later read BTPB by Author Rea and he basically confirmed what I found through trial and error. After about 28-35 days, the human body begins to try to reach a homeostasis and balance itself. This means it begins to produce more cortisol, estrogen etc... to counteract the positive hormones in your blood. It is best to end the process before this balancing becomes out of hand and a pile of ancillaries is needed to recover. The only compound I use for recovery is Nolvadex at 20mg a day for 15 days. Nothing else is needed.

The great thing about this is that rather than trying to make all your gains in one monster 16 week cycle... you can do 5 weeks, take 10 off and repeat... each time you move up. and the 10 weeks off you still feel great. I would not cycle any other way. It is too bad we see all these horror stories about recovery issues, shrunken nuts and depression. If people switched to this protocol, they would be much happier... I know I am. Not only that, my growth is constant... not small one month and fucking huge the next.
 
i respect that if its working for you bro, but my deca cycles don't yield any gains for 5-6 weeks, then its on like donkey kong, and the last one i shot up 22lbs and kept all of it with a bit of hcg and nolva. if i put on 10lbs in 5 weeks i would do that but its just not like that for me, i basically get stronger and feel pumps for 5 weeks and at week 6 the scale starts to go nuts. we are all different and our receptors are as well. i know a person who feels eq within 4 weeks while others feel it after 8 or 10.
 
bruce410 said:
i respect that if its working for you bro, but my deca cycles don't yield any gains for 5-6 weeks, then its on like donkey kong, and the last one i shot up 22lbs and kept all of it with a bit of hcg and nolva. if i put on 10lbs in 5 weeks i would do that but its just not like that for me, i basically get stronger and feel pumps for 5 weeks and at week 6 the scale starts to go nuts. we are all different and our receptors are as well. i know a person who feels eq within 4 weeks while others feel it after 8 or 10.


I typically use shorter esters. Try Nandrolone Phenylpropionate rather decanoate. But, everything hits me fast. And just because you cease the cycle at 5 weeks, does not mean you will not continue to grow. The blood levels have been ramped up, you will do fine. Either way, I am sure you will be OK. I am just offering a different perspective for those that are looking for constant growth rather than sudden.
 
no i have a book where the author swears on 3-5 week deca cycles because it does stay in your system. i am not bashing just those week 6-12 gains i need em like i need pussy
 
I also prefer longer cycles. I think that the gains are retained better than shorter ones since the body has time to acclimate to the new mass.
 
I too have tried the short cycle thing (using all fast acting gear). It just didnt work for me. My gains dont come quick or all at once, and I actually prefer it that way. I can gain slowly and steadily over a 10-12wk peroid, and I keep my gains much better that way. The short cycle I ran, I gained very little and lost nearly everything.
 
To each there own. As for settling into a weight... it is better to move up 5-10 pounds of lean mass (not body weight) than add 25-30 pounds of water, fat and and a little muscle. I prefer the slow and steady wins the race. I promise you... long cycles take their toll and are unnecessary.

Also, Outlaw... I think you need to think more in a one year period than a 5 week period. Sure you may take a step back, but the cumulative effect over a year will yield permanent changes with little to no supression. Also, I like a mix of Long acting and short. Prop, NPP/ Tren Enan,Test Cyp, EQ.
 
ass_face,
Do you follow normal pct after your short cycles? I am interested in hearing more about those. I too would rather have small gains less fluctuation in body weight. What are some of your fav stacks now that you are approaching 40?
Thx
 
jerseyboy0427 said:
isn't anybody able to help me

I don't think your supposed to ask for a source. No one would help you even if that is what your asking. Read the stickys at the top!!
 
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