gettinlarger's Training Journal: 5x5.

[casualbb]

Whoa there.

Calm down. I didn't rip on the 5x5, I merely stated my opinion.

By the way, I'm not a DC training plan advocate. I merely think it comes closer to an optimal growth plan than does the 5x5.

I am in a bitchy mood today. So, yeah. Bear with me.

I am in a patient mood today. So, yeah, I'll bear with you.

-casualbb

 

[gettinlarger]

I really like your routines!! Looks like you are making progress each week. What is your current weight? Are you back into the 180's?

I wish. I'm probably only a couple pounds heavier than I was. I'm trying to eat very very clean, seeing if I can grow while minimizing bodyfat. It's a longshot, but hey, it might work for me. If not ... I'll just eat everything I can, haha.

 

[DrBones]

I have to admit, though, I'm biased against the 5x5 plan. Go ahead and do the stretching. Worst that can happen is you'll spend 20 more minutes in the gym each time you go

Here's what stretching does...

The stretching of a muscle fiber begins with the sarcomere, the basic unit of contraction in the muscle fiber. As the sarcomere contracts, the area of overlap between the thick and thin myofilaments increases. As it stretches, this area of overlap decreases, allowing the muscle fiber to elongate. Once the muscle fiber is at its maximum resting length (all the sarcomeres are fully stretched), additional stretching places force on the surrounding connective tissue. As the tension increases, the collagen fibers in the connective tissue align themselves along the same line of force as the tension. Hence when you stretch, the muscle fiber is pulled out to its full length sarcomere by sarcomere, and then the connective tissue takes up the remaining slack. When this occurs, it helps to realign any disorganized fibers in the direction of the tension. This realignment is what helps to rehabilitate scarred tissue back to health.

When a muscle is stretched, some of its fibers lengthen, but other fibers may remain at rest. The current length of the entire muscle depends upon the number of stretched fibers (similar to the way that the total strength of a contracting muscle depends on the number of recruited fibers contracting). According to SynerStretch you should think of "little pockets of fibers distributed throughout the muscle body stretching, and other fibers simply going along for the ride". The more fibers that are stretched, the greater the length developed by the stretched muscle.


So the actual worse case scenario will be 20 more minutes in the gym, better recovery with less chance of injuries...

 

[Sebass67]

Whatever...look at the above post.
To assume one thing will only work for one and only one program is a load of crap.

Just sounds like a very ignorant thing to say.

BTW, do u have a post or whatnot that shows what kinds of gains you have got from that program i would certainly go check it out if u are so certain.

 

[casualbb]

To assume one thing will only work for one and only one program is a load of crap.

If you had actually read my post, you would have noticed that I never said that the extreme stretching "works" for the DC training method. I actually said it was a "peripheral element of the program," or something of relatively minor importance. I basically don't think it really does much to augment the gains of either program.

On another note, why are you getting so defensive? I'm not allowed to say that I don't like something? What are you, the thought police?

And no, I'm not going to let you goad me into posting my gains because that's not what this thread is about. I will probably post gains on this board at some point; you will simply have to be patient.

-casualbb

 

[Sebass67]

Ok...how bout this? Can u at least tell me that u have tried 5X5 or are u just arguing from a theory standpoint?

 

[casualbb]

No I haven't tried the 5x5 program. I am arguing from a pure theory standpoint. The only problem is that this discussion leads to me talking about why this program won't grow muscle the fastest, which wasn't what I intended to do.


-casualbb

 

[Sebass67]

I think that in a sense they are both based on a similiar principle..

Strength=size

If i read the doggcrap post correctly.
BTW, if u haven't tried it, i wouldn;t knock it. My 2cents IMO.

 

[gettinlarger]

Yesterday, Shoulders and Bis.

Military.
5x5 at 155.

DB military.
1x10, 1x8 or 9 (I forget) with 70s.

Lat raises.
2x10 with 20s.

BB Curls.
5x5 with 85.

Preachers.
1x10, 1x8 with 95.

Reverse Curls.
1x10, 1x9 with 65.

Weight's still going up.

 

[PolishHammer1977]

Good job