gettinlarger's Training Journal: 5x5.

[gettinlarger]

Legs tonight.

Squats.
5x5 at 160. Working light for now. Concentrating on strict form.

Leg press.
2x10 with 5 plates on either side.

Lunges.
2x10 with 40s.

By this time, my quads were in mad pain, especially after some much needed stretching.

Ham curls.
1x12 at 70.
1x8 at 80.

Calves, seated.
5x5 with 115. Very slow movements. Lots of pause at the bottom motion. Lots of pain. I loved it.

Standing.
1x8, 1x6 at 100. My calves can't take much more of this slow stuff. Haha.

I'm gonna be in pain tomorrow.

 

[michaelcoutts]

what are your 'extreme' stretches?

 

[DrBones]

Guys...picking and choosing elements of the DC training program and injecting it into the framework of a 5x5 isn't going to do much.

The reason the DC method works so much better than any kind of volume training is the HIGHER FREQUENCY with which similar muscle groups are hit. The static holds, the extreme stretching -- it's all just icing on the cake. And that cake is more frequent training

Fiirst of all, I think dogcrapps training methods sounds quite amazing and plan on trying them out within the year...

casualbb:

With that said... I fell your being quite closed minded regarding the effectiveness of stetching in another style of training.

Stretching was around long before dogcrapps routine and will be around long after some other cutting edge routine is developed.... It is not an element that can benefit strictly dogcrapp trainees... stretching can and will benefit any one doing any type of routine... Stretching helps loosen up connective tissues.... do you think it only performs its function in a low volume environment? Please explain?

If it is only the icing on the cake for dogcrapps routines, please explain to me why it cannot be icing on the cake for a 5x5 style routine?

Keep on extreme stretching there Gettinglarger...

This isn't meant to be a flame... I just don't see any logic in that statement
Thanks

 

[gettinlarger]

what are your 'extreme' stretches?

Basically what had been described in the DC Training thread.

 

[gettinlarger]

Chest and Tris.

Incline.
5x5 at 170.

Flat Db press.
1x9, 1x6 with 90s.

Stretch.

Close grip press.
5x5 at 150.

Dips.
1x10, 1x8 with +75.

Stretch.

Quick ab work. Couple sets leg lifts, few sets of decline sit ups, very short rest periods, maybe 15 seconds.

Today kind sucked in the sense that I did not eat much at all, but it was good, because all my lifts were greater than last week. And it is time to eat now.

 

[PolishHammer1977]

Nice workout man. Everything is fundamentally sound to this point.

 

[needsize]

good progress

 

[louden_swain]

I really like your routines!! Looks like you are making progress each week. What is your current weight? Are you back into the 180's?

 

[casualbb]

casualbb:

With that said... I fell your being quite closed minded regarding the effectiveness of stetching in another style of training.

Stretching was around long before dogcrapps routine and will be around long after some other cutting edge routine is developed.... It is not an element that can benefit strictly dogcrapp trainees... stretching can and will benefit any one doing any type of routine... Stretching helps loosen up connective tissues.... do you think it only performs its function in a low volume environment? Please explain?

If it is only the icing on the cake for dogcrapps routines, please explain to me why it cannot be icing on the cake for a 5x5 style routine?

Keep on extreme stretching there Gettinglarger...

What I'm trying to say here is that the extreme stretching is one of the peripheral elements of the program. The main points of DC training are the 1) frequency and the 2) volume. Stretching is just something he tosses on top because it seems like a good idea. I'm not saying it isn't helpful in multiple ways, because it is. But stretching alone doesn't grow muscle. And borrowing this one minor component of the DC plan won't help replicate the gains experienced on the plan.

I have to admit, though, I'm biased against the 5x5 plan. Go ahead and do the stretching. Worst that can happen is you'll spend 20 more minutes in the gym each time you go.

-casualbb

 

[Sebass67]

And how exactly are u biased against it?
That makes absolutely no sense...if u are against any program or programs don;t pick ones that people are continually getting gains from...

Go find some piece of crap mag like Flex and get biased against the insane volume in some of the programs they advocate instead of this.

And...if u think your program is good...big deal...
Everyone is open to new ideas/exercises and routines.
I plan on trying the program myself.

BTW, replicate what? the gains from the 5X5 program for me have been great.

It seems like all u doggcrap program advocates are only going to hurt the whole idea just by the fact that you put everyone elses program down. Way to go.

I am in a bitchy mood today. So, yeah. Bear with me.